Posts by Vidiot

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Will recent dress-code changes affect the WTS negatively?

by Wonderment in

in a span of a few months time, we have had many unexpected changes announced by the jw organization.

some here have expressed the belief that a great number of witnesses will leave the religion.

in fact, there is a great probability the opposite will be true.. yeah, ancient hardliners will have a hard time assimilating these changes, but the younger generation will likely welcome these changes.

Vidiot

NotFormer - “…R&F JWs are probably trying to find the hidden code: ‘What are they actually commanding us to do here?’…”

Tell them “nothing”, sit back, and watch the confusion. 😏

I’m actually reminded of when they started discussing blood fractions; specifically advising to inform your doctor of your choices …and a lot of folks did indeed try to “decode” the instructions.

One old loyalist biddy said that she still wouldn’t accept anything, only to be told “don’t tell us, tell your doctor”.

Viewing almost everything as some kind of litmus test and feeling compelled to broadcast all your personal business to everyone around you must be exhausting AF. 😵‍💫

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Will New Rules Bring JWs Together or Pull Them Apart?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.

you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.

but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?

Vidiot

Tom has a source, Red is a source…

…we should start a betting pool of some kind…

😏

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If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

by nowwhat? in

let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

if they are going more mainstream.

i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

Vidiot

At this point, they’re not trying to look more “appealing”…

…they’re trying to look less toxic.

And the “Jehovah’s Witness” and “Watchtower” labels are definitely more toxic than not, these days.

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Wishing that You Could Make it all Go Away

by NotFormer in

there're always things we did in the past that we wish had never happened or that we could make them all go away.. the wt actually can do this, to a certain extent.

speculation about tony?

they command the r&f to stop doing it, and it goes away.

Vidiot

They tried controlling the narrative in Norway, and the court saw right through it.

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Will New Rules Bring JWs Together or Pull Them Apart?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.

you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.

but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?

Vidiot

If they’re doubling down on the blood rules, it’s probably because their lawyers have done some kind of cost-benefit analysis, and determined that dropping it will actually result in more legal problems than keeping it.

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Article-New Zealand: JW's Church takes case over Abuse in Care ruling to Court of Appeal

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/512321/jehovah-s-witness-church-takes-case-over-abuse-in-care-ruling-to-court-of-appeal?fbclid=iwar0ipoxydannpkym0rbwj-0ffxcmauhknchpvhql2l0azq4-garjfiihsqa.

the court of appeal has reserved its decision in the jehovah's witness church's case challenging the abuse in care inquiry.. in wellington on thursday the church appealed a high court ruling that dismissed its claim to be excluded from the investigation.. the public gallery was packed with members of the church and abuse survivors.. lawyer sarah jerebine began the appeal by challenging the royal commission's decision to extend the inquiry's scope from institutional care to trust-based relationships between authority figures and children.. "it becomes a person with authority, not authority to care but just authority, can assume responsibility for a trust-based relationship.

we say that is something quite different to what was intended and understood by what this commission would be looking at.".

Vidiot

NotFormer - “…Even if they get off on the ‘in care’ technicality, what's to stop Parliament from deciding to broaden the scope of the inquiry? Another legal precedent brought on by themselves…”

Bingo.

It’s like they have trouble grasping that secular laws can, will, and need to be fine-tuned from time to time, and it ain’t always gonna be in their favor.

They always assumed the World would use heavy-handed militant force to try and wipe them out (which, let’s face it, would make it way easier to look like victims).

They never imagined they could be sued, taxed, or legislated into oblivion. 😏

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How to respond to any JW about The Watchtower being an NGO

by Bluegrass Tom in

i prepared the following in abrief essay form from my research on the subject.. please read it through.

it will take a few minutes.i believe it is comprehensive enough for use with almost anyone.. if any one wants it in word ot pdf format, i can email it you.. a matter of reason.

the issue of being disturbed by the watchtower society becoming associated with the united nations as a non-governmental organization (ngo) is not a matter of faith, but a matter of reason.. .

Vidiot

Not to mention that if reports are accurate, they’re trying to overhaul their eschatology anyway…

…and I pretty sure the UN will be a virtual nonentity in the new-and-improved narrative.

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If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

by nowwhat? in

let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

if they are going more mainstream.

i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

Vidiot

According to this, it’s on the table.

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Will recent dress-code changes affect the WTS negatively?

by Wonderment in

in a span of a few months time, we have had many unexpected changes announced by the jw organization.

some here have expressed the belief that a great number of witnesses will leave the religion.

in fact, there is a great probability the opposite will be true.. yeah, ancient hardliners will have a hard time assimilating these changes, but the younger generation will likely welcome these changes.

Vidiot

Ron W. - “…My aged family are desperately trying to find ways to convince themselves to be faithful and loyal to these new dress codes but are seriously struggling.”

slimboyfat - “The new rules allow for people who want to keep dressing the way they’ve always done. Many JWs will choose to do so. I don’t think it should be such a problem from that point of view.”

Problem is, after a lifetime hearing everything from WTHQ as marching orders, the prospect of anything being genuinely optional is hard for them to wrap their heads around.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

Vidiot

TonusOH- “…It's the internet. I take most people at face value. After all, I don't have anything invested, and time will tell if this person was right or not…”

Ditto.