Posts by Vidiot

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The Dangers of Independent Thinking

by daystar in

"the dangers of independent thinking".

reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?

i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.

Vidiot

I’ve always had difficulty tolerating overt displays of stupidity, and it finally came to a head with one elder in particular (a kind man, but not the brightest bulb on the tree)…

…when he effectively parroted the old creationist idea that dinosaurs and humans were contemporaries.

I piped up, “Then why are there no cave paintings of them? Why are there no human remains in the same layers of rock as dinosaur fossils?” (Note: I did not ask this in a mean or confrontational way. Not my style.)

The deer-in-the-headlights look clearly indicated that these things had never once occurred to him, but to his credit, he acknowledged that they were perfectly valid questions.

This was in front of the entire bookstudy group, BTW, and I never got in trouble for it, either.

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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

to not do it anymore.

it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

Vidiot

dropoffyourkeylee - “I wonder if the masturbation-video guy gets many photo requests.”

He probably just sends ‘em a link to his OnlyFans page. 😏

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The Dangers of Independent Thinking

by daystar in

"the dangers of independent thinking".

reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?

i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.

Vidiot

TonusOH - “…Franz once testified that 'unity' had to be maintained, even at the cost of accuracy…”

I still get chills reading that (and not the nice kind).

I also really wish the lawyer he admitted that to had followed up with a “why?”

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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

to not do it anymore.

it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

Vidiot

hoser - “…it seems the exjw community is setting policy for the governing body”

Hard to argue with.

Irony’s thick enough to choke on.

😏

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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

to not do it anymore.

it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

Vidiot

WingCommander - “…The only thing that will truly bring them down? Death by 1,000 lawsuits and media exposure, leading to actual criminal charges and incarceration of the leadership.”

Honestly, they way the Legal Dept. mobilizes like SEAL Team Six the moment their charity status seems threatened…

…I think revoking their tax-exemption would be more effective (not that the things you suggested wouldn’t be satisfying 😏).

You don’t fuck with federal revenue agencies… these are the guys that took down Capone.

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The Greeks had a word for it, but the Watchtower didn't

by Nathan Natas in

i recall as though it was only 60 years ago, sitting in the kingdom hall on those horrible chairs, learning of the four forms of love: agape, philia, storge and eros.. the watchtower never mentioned pragma.. pragma: this is a committed, compassionate love that often grows as two partners continue to cherish and care for each other.

this type of love is associated with being together for a long time.

in some cases, the passion of eros can grow into pragma over time, this forging a lasting bond.. i think i know why; the watchtower isn't into committed, compassionate, cherishing and caring, are they?.

Vidiot

The fewer types of (acknowledged) love there are, the easier it is dictate which kinds will be used to compel a sense of duty.

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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

to not do it anymore.

it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

Vidiot

So…

…the key to the WT’s ~~retention of its charity status~~ financial survival has the net effect of neutering virtually all the things that they used to hold up as hard proof they alone had The Truth…

…which, in turn, further undermines the incentive to stay affiliated with the WTS…

…which, in turn, can’t help but further reduce the overall size of the membership…

…which, in turn, further decreases the Org’s donation-based revenue flow…

…which, in turn, places the Org’s survival at greater risk…

…and so on, and so forth…

No wonder they’re quietly scrambling to get their little real estate empire up and running.

😏

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What the org SAYS, but what it really MEANS!

by BoogerMan in

w16 april p. 9 par.

17 being faithful gullible leads to god’s the cult's approval - thousands of young christian men and women are willingly sacrificing marriage or are not having children - at least for now - in order to serve jehovah the borg to the full.

older ones too may be sacrificing the time they could otherwise spend with their children and grandchildren in order to work on theocratic construction projects supply free labour or to attend the school for kingdom evangelizers receive deeper indoctrination and to serve in areas where the need for kingdom publishers more suckers is greater.

Vidiot

“…to ~~work on theocratic construction projects~~ supply free labour…”

That one isn’t really much of a thing anymore.

Too many instances of the work not being up to code and having to be redone.

😏

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Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?

by Anony Mous in

i know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.

i just can't easily find reference to anything.

this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.

Vidiot

Since the Bible contains plenty of instances where killing children was condoned by God, why would the prospect of this happening at Armageddon surprise anyone?

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The Dangers of Independent Thinking

by daystar in

"the dangers of independent thinking".

reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?

i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.

Vidiot

The real danger of “independent thinking”…

…is the risk of thinking the WTS might be wrong.