I missed out on a really pretty potential GF in high school 'cause I played fair and followed the WT rules.
Although in retrospect, I cann't complain too much, seeing as how my kids probably wouldn't exist if I had ended up with her...
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GOOD NEWS. UK Charity Commisssion; "No presumption that religion is for the public benefit"
by nicolaou ini tweeted this link a couple of days ago but forgot to post it here .
the uk charity commission has refused to renew the charitable status of the plymouth brethren, a cultlike sect similar to the watchtower in so many ways.
as a result, some members of parliament are claiming that the commissions action is a "suppression of religion".
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wannabefree - "I see today's JW Organization walking whatever fine line they can to keep their money, be it opening the Hall up for use by the public (I see local churches allow their facilities to be used to hold meetings such as AA or piano recitals, etc.) ... or some other form of charitable work defined by the government ... they will find a way to compromise enough to keep their money."
I dunno; that sounds just too foreign to their MO.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Game changer for Jehovah's Witnesses ? Bishop CONVICTED for failure to REPORT. NY Times.
by Balaamsass intonight in new york times.
what will this mean for elders, service desk bethelites, c.o.s and d.o.s....possible jail time ?.
kansas city bishop convicted of shielding pedophile priest.
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Band on the Run - "I hope that the punitive damages in the Conti case would bring a gradual, face-saving reform."
Honestly, Band, I'm pretty sure they won't.
The WTS has painted themselves too tightly into their particular little corner to implement anything resembling progressive reform, by now. They had a chance in the late 70s to start down that path, but chose to implement a purge for ideological purity instead, and that purge's final nail was hammered home during Jaracz's reign.
Any reform at this stage in the game, and they would arguably no longer be Jehovah's Witnesses, IMO.
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Former priest alleges 'system of cover-ups' of abuse
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/15346288/former-priest-alleges-system-of-cover-ups-of-abuse/.
abcupdated november 10, 2012, 2:01 am.
a former new south wales priest claims to have witnessed a "system of cover-ups" within the catholic church to hide child sexual abuse.. kevin lee was ordained as a priest 20 years ago and worked as a police chaplain for some of that time, but was relieved of his parish responsibilities in western sydney this year when he admitted to marrying a woman in secret.. his comments follow those of that the catholic church is involved in cover-ups and paedophile priests have destroyed evidence to avoid prosecution.. mr lee told lateline on friday that abuse is widely covered up in the church and that he first became aware of it as soon as he was in the seminary.. "people used to tell me and people in the first parish i was in started to confess their frustration with the authorities and the church for not dealing with the abuse that happened to their sons," he said.. mr lee says during the course of his life as a priest, he became aware that some of those around him were paedophiles.. "i became aware that some of the other priests were actually paedophiles and were not necessarily becoming priests because they wanted to help people, but because they were paedophiles who wanted the opportunity," he said.. mr lee says a church protocol was in place for dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, but it was not actually used.. "i saw a system of cover-ups, a system of blind-eye turning and just ignorance of the fact that it was happening," he said.. he says he took his concerns to superiors within the church but was knocked back.. "in my earlier years as a priest, i was having these people coming to me in confession or just sharing in counselling sessions their experience of frustration and anger with the church that had ignored their pleas of justice when their children had been abused and i started writing the notes down," he said.. "i was speaking to a barrister at one point and i thought he was going to help my case by putting it forward in some legal process.. "he said 'document everything you have', and everything i had i took to authorities within the church and i was told i needed more evidence.".
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sizemik - "There is an attitudinal shift taking place which is squeezing them out of thier holes."
Have you considered this: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/240287/1/Something-occurred-to-mee280a6
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The Decline of Elders and Ministerial Servants
by Londo111 ini seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.
the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.
but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.
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karter - "They have lowered the bar for being appointed i see Elders who at best are not up to the job."
About a year ago, I read an anecdote about a group of elders who were so shorthanded, they'd payed a "shepherding" call to a DFd former elder, "encouraging" him to pursue reinstatement with the danged carrot of eldership within a year or so.
From the WTS's point of view, that's not "at best, not up to the job"... that's pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Although when you think about it, it's pretty vanilla compared to the WTS determining for themselves whether or not a known sex offender is a "predator" whilst considering (or continuing) eldership appointment for said offender.
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Game changer for Jehovah's Witnesses ? Bishop CONVICTED for failure to REPORT. NY Times.
by Balaamsass intonight in new york times.
what will this mean for elders, service desk bethelites, c.o.s and d.o.s....possible jail time ?.
kansas city bishop convicted of shielding pedophile priest.
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scott77 - "My concern with the Watchtower if I can read the history, its really and agressively litigant. Most of the times, the victims do not find the justice they are badly looking for."
What goes around comes around.
And like I keep saying, the WTS - for a lot of reasons - would make an ideal candidate for a public example/object lesson.
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The Decline of Elders and Ministerial Servants
by Londo111 ini seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.
the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.
but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.
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Well said, sir82.
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Part 03: Compares And Contrasts From Any of The Following Posters.
by Scott77 inthis thread posted under 'fun and humor section', is intended compares, contrasts and to acknowledges the unique contributions of each poster and how he or she has affected you over the years.
its one of way of acknowledging a poster's presence on jwn from the perspective of fellow posters.
you are free to compare and contrast two or more posters.
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Us creative guys are always romantic...
(That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.)
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Do you regret confessing your sins to the elders?
by asilentone inyes, i do!
i did it 20 years ago, but the elders still remember what i did, sometimes i wish they never knew about it.
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Happy@last, I knew an elder like you; he was one of the fellas on my old JC, as a matter of fact.
Guys like him and you can hardly ever be found in the WTS, these days, I think.
Company Men (and barely qualified ones, at that) are pretty much all that's left.