Posts by Vidiot

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The Motive of the Governing Body

by jwfacts in

i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

Vidiot

the girl next door - "...The higher the position, the greater burden in the mind when doubts creep in. 'The harder they fall' as it were... The GB are painfully ordinary men playing the only game they know at the highest level in full recognition, or at the very least cognitive dissonance, that everything they believe in is in fact complete bullshit.... No doubt each one of them quietly struggles with their own crisis of conscience..."

You're partly right.

After long observation and thought on the subject, I've come to the conclusion that...

a) ...they know it's wrong... but believe it's true... at the same time (it's called "compartmentalization", and career politicians are particularly skilled at it), and...

b) ...the WTS leadership is able to function that way because (I suspect) authoritarian leaders don't actually feel cognitive dissonance.

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The Motive of the Governing Body

by jwfacts in

i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

Vidiot

Without the WTS, the GB would have nothing.

They would be nothing.

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Number of Kingdom Halls Worldwide

by wachttorenkijker in

how many kingdom halls are there worldwide?

even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..

Vidiot

watchtorenkijker - "It is remarkable that JW HQ doesn't give any figures of how many kingdom halls there are."

Agreed.

Which suggests to me that said figures indicate something they don't want widely known...

...and since "growth=God's Blessing" has been such an integral component of the WTS's ideological DNA for so long...

...the simplest explanation that comes to mind is the opposite of growth...

...i.e. dwindling numbers...

...i.e. decline.

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JW cult suing everyone critical of the cult

by phoenixrising in

its amazing how the cult has changed over the years.

they are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult.

this was never done that i can remember before.

Vidiot

Half banana - "Then they must think we are a serious threat to their existence."

The way they've been behaving, that's super hard to argue with.

...

And that, IMO, is the real telling point.

They wouldn't be acting as though the Org's survival was at risk unless they truly did believe (subconsciously or otherwise) that it was.

That fact - in and of itself - suggests that on some level, the leadership knows that the Watchtower Society is Wrong...

...because if they were Right (and therefore had God's backing) they'd have no valid reason to act increasingly defensive of the Org's survival.

...

You shouldn't need to use legal finagling and intimidation to stay in the game if you possess the actual moral high ground...

...therefore, the fact that they do use those tactics indicates that they don't have the moral high ground...

...i.e. they don't have The Truth.

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JW cult suing everyone critical of the cult

by phoenixrising in

its amazing how the cult has changed over the years.

they are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult.

this was never done that i can remember before.

Vidiot

phoenix rising - "Just like in Scientology they are too stupid to know that this kind of tyrannical behavior only makes more warriors..."

I know, right?

Someone at WTHQ really should Google "The Streisand Effect".

Vidiot

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Do the GB leaders of the JWS make its members delusionaly insane ?

by Finkelstein in

this particular question or evaluation of the people who are participating jws has come up before in debate.

the more one deeply analyzes this the answer usually comes up in the affirmative yes.

when you consider the fact that jws members will abandon their own family, go as far as kill themselves under the direction of these men, it really confirms just how deep the mental and conscious indoctrination these men have gone.. .

Vidiot

Another thing I just thought of...

...

...GB members have always been (or claimed to be) members of the "Anointed", remember?

How many of us have met partakers over the course of our lives, and not found them at least a little... off?

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Dose age and the reasons for leaving affect the out come

by joe134cd in

firstly for anyone leaving is don’t get involved in alcohol, drugs, parties, and sleeping around, because it will just come back and bite you in the arse.. i have a theory that those who leave the religion at an older age do better than those who leave at a younger age.

i think to that the reasons for leaving are quite different between the age groups.

i sometimes wonder if many of the under 30’s use the short comings of the religion, as an excuse to pursue the above mentioned life style.

Vidiot

joe134cd - "...I have a theory that those who leave the religion at an older age do better than those who leave at a younger age... I think too that the reasons for leaving are quite different between the age groups..."

Agreed.

Based on my observation...

...young folks who leave do so typically because sometimes it's just too hard to follow all the rules (I personally suspect it's due to being typically outgoing/extroverted individuals who simply need a fuller life just to feel whole, whereas introverts and the socially awkward have a much easier time of it, but I could be wrong)...

...whereas older folks usually WTexit because they've figured out it's not actually The Truth.

There's always exceptions to both, of course.

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Number of Kingdom Halls Worldwide

by wachttorenkijker in

how many kingdom halls are there worldwide?

even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..

Vidiot

Don't know the exact stats...

...but...

...we hear way more reports or closures and sales then we do of new construction.

...

Coincidentally enough, said sales seem to correlate pretty close to court settlements/fines.

Can't imagine why.

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Politically Neutral and No Part of this World....

by Davros in

jw
friends

nice to be here.

still a pimo and struggling through my fade.

i still have several jw friends on social media.

Vidiot

Davros - "...There was even an increase in disfellowshipping and reproving after Obama first got elected because there were many JWs in the US who went out and voted for him..."

Funny, I'd have thought that any JW who voted on the sly would've leaned more rightward.

Maybe the bulk of them were from the West Coast, though... I've heard a lot of Californian JWs are pretty liberal in attitude.

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Reasonable question - looking for reasonable responses!

by BoogerMan in

why are taxi firms still operating during a "deadly pandemic?".

i was shopping yesterday and saw taxi after taxi picking people & their shopping up at the supermarket.

none of the drivers or any of the passengers wore masks or gloves, nor did they keep any distance from each other - in or out of the car.. the drivers all helped to load the bags into the boots/trunks of their cars.taxi-drivers must be seriously at risk of catching/spreading covid 19...

Vidiot

Anony Mous - "This whole lock down is done to control people, to destroy the economy and to implement socialist ideals on redistribution of wealth, government income etc..."

Awesome!

All hail the Neworldordereptilianuminati!!!