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  Bible canon conundrums

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a topic that i find really interesting- how the bible, in particular, the new testament was compiled and how the jw organisation strives to negate, scoff at and diminish the influence of the catholic church in its development.. here is the official stance of the org: .

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/library/r1/lp-e/all-publications/watchtower/the-watchtower-1963/april-15.

  'the roman catholic church claims responsibility for the decision as to which books should be included in the canon, and reference is made to the councils of hippo (a.d. 393) and carthage (a.d. 397), where catalogues of books were formulated.

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  Bible canon conundrums...

  ..."canondrums"?
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  Alternate Jobs for the Governing Body..

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’m not sure if this is in the right topic area or not, but sometimes i wonder:.

  if it were not for “religion”, what would the current gb do for a living??.

  my speculations:.

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  Vidiot

  You're all wrong.

  In fact, they already have a gig lined up:

  
  
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  PURITANS - why we need them right now

  by Terry in

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  puritans!.

  we need them to help us become more righteous.we need to feel the sting of their whiplash and suffer the tongues of flame, branding irons, and denouncement.why?gosh - we aren't as pure as they are, that's why!.

  8th century christian orthodox iconoclasts smashed statues used by catholic christian worshipers - to save them from idolatry.let us us cheer that intervention!

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  Vidiot

  IMO, the ones who cry "persection!" the loudest are the ones most likely to persecute others.

  Of course (as I've said many times)...

  ...going around jabbing people in the eye with a stick and then whining when you get a beatdown for it doesn't actually make you a martyr.

  It just makes you an asshole.
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  Sued by inmate, North Carolina concedes Witnesses are distinct faith group, not subset of Protestants

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last thursday poyner spruill, a prominent north carolina law firm, announced a victory in a pro bono case involving religious freedom of incarcerated jehovah's witnesses.

  the poyner team was appointed by the u.s. district court for the western district of north carolina to represent an inmate challenging the state’s policy governing how and when jehovah’s witnesses can worship in prison.

  the state’s policy classified jehovah’s witnesses as a subset of christian protestants and, on that basis, prohibited separate jehovah’s witness meetings—an infringement on religious freedom under the first amendment.

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  Corney - "Maybe prison officials were just afraid that Mormons, Unitarian Universalists, Adventists, Pentecostals and others, lumped together as Protestants in their policy documents, will ask for separate services too?"

  Wouldn't surprise me.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Class Warfare (parallels to Karl Marx)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  among jehovah’s witnesses, the elite consists of 144,00 kings and priests who have been specially selected (anointed) to rule in heaven (as transformed spirit beings) over the second group (great crowd) who remain human on a paradise earth.. .

  in marxist theory, the elite use wealth to obtain political power and control ideology consisting of shaping the worldview of the underclass.

  (their role in society.).

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  JoenB75 - "Rutherford and JW since were a lot more occupied with condemning the old world and saving their own souls. The dreams of Russellism were higher more idealistic."

  I'm inclined to agree.

  At the very least (despite his quirks), Russel seemed like a genuinely decent individual.

  By all indications, Rutherford was a complete prick.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Class Warfare (parallels to Karl Marx)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  among jehovah’s witnesses, the elite consists of 144,00 kings and priests who have been specially selected (anointed) to rule in heaven (as transformed spirit beings) over the second group (great crowd) who remain human on a paradise earth.. .

  in marxist theory, the elite use wealth to obtain political power and control ideology consisting of shaping the worldview of the underclass.

  (their role in society.).

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  Vidiot

  Sometimes, I find it very hard to not suspect that every "successful" ideology did so because it cheated to get there.
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  Why this guy Jehovah Makes No Sense, Or the Reasons Why I don't serve Him Anymore!

  by 1234 in

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  2. friends

  there are many....i just couldn't get my head around.. these are a few.. 1. this blood thirsty god that had no problem killing/genociding men women, children and even their farm animals to made a point.

  as delmar said in oh brother where art thou "not the livestock!".

  8,500,000,00 on the planet and 8,500,000 jehovah;s witnesses.

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  1234 - "Satan would be the winner in this match..."

  Plus, he runs a sweet-ass club in LA, and helps the cops solve crimes.
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  Did they use to applaud after reinstatement after being Disfellowshipped, but then it stopped?

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't remember disfellowshippings happening very often and announcements about being re instated but i think i remember that we used to clap hands if someone came back after being disfellowshipped.

  but then i think clapping wasn't allowed.

  am i correct in my recollections?.

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  Spontaneous expressions of happiness undermine the programming.

  It does not compute.

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  CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

  disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

  he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

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  nowwhat? - "The point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days...."

  Don't kid yourself.

  Ten bucks says that, deep down, the vast majority of rank-and-file JWs aren't really feeling all that disappointed.

  The point of the letter is to remind them to feel guilty about not feeling disappointed.
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  Aren`t These Two Scriptures At Odds With Each Other ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  romans 13 ,1-7 contrast with 2 cor.4 : 3-6 ,on the one hand the faithful are to be obedient to the superior authorities ,worldly government ,law enforcement ,etc, as its gods arrangement and to go against it is to go against god ?.

  then 2 cor .4 : 3-6 states that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one satan the devil and if you are obedient to that you are supporting satan`s system of things and going against gods arrangement ?.

  what sort of mental gymnastics do you need to acquire to accept both of these scriptures and keep your sanity ?.

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  Vidiot

  smiddy3 - "What sort of mental gymnastics do you need to acquire to accept both of these scriptures and keep your sanity?"

  The same kind that involves knowing something is wrong...

  ...but believing it's "true"...

  ...at the same time.