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  Jehovahs Dodge Claim

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  "victims say cash moved offshore".

  i just thought you might be interested in how widespread this article has been taken up by the media in australia.. west australian newspaper , herald sun sunday victorian newspaper ,the daily telegraph n.s.w.

  newspaper,.

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  Vidiot

  truth_b_known - "...the proceeds have been funneled elsewhere?"

  Sort of.

  A couple years back, WTHQ had the bulk of their money in Australia transferred overseas.

  There is no fucking way it was a coincidence.
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  Australia - Selling Off Assets

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.

  https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.

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  Vidiot

  Not to mention that as soon as the Org's lawyers start whining that doing so will put the WTS in "financial distress" or somesuch...

  ...the collective world's response will probably be somewhere in the range of "seriously?", "so?", and "boo-fucking-hoo".

  And good luck spinning "paying back Caesar's things to Caesar" as "persecution".
  
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  Australia - Selling Off Assets

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.

  https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.

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  Vidiot

  @ smiddy3...

  My favorite bit in the pic you just posted...

  "...the Federal Government would 'name and shame institutions and consider financial sanctions such as revoking charitable status' if they did not join the scheme."

  Can't help but wonder...
  

  ....just how financially dependent on its tax-exemption is the Org?...

  ...and if it gets pulled in Australia, how soon will the Org's other charity-status dominoes around the world start to fall?
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Vanderhoven7 - "Actually, they did set another date for Armageddon... prior to the year 2000."

  Damn, that's right.

  I'd forgotten about that.
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  JWGoneBad - "...here's what he actually said, if you can believe it: 'The events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we're living in the final part of the last days... undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days... shortly before the last day of the last days'..."

  LOL!...

  ..."The final second of the last minute of the eleventh hour of the culminating day of the closing week of the penultimate month..."

  Like I said the other day, it's super-hard to not suspect that the rest of the GB must know he looks and sounds ridonculous, and they deliberately put him on as some sort of doofy-ass litmus test...

  ...the guy can't help but further alienate the "lukewarm" (albeit in the funniest way imaginable), and any remaining loyalists who can drink the Lett-flavored Kool-aid and seriously ask "please sir, can I have some more?" are in for life.
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Vidiot

  Number 6 - "...I read recently (sorry I cant source it right now) that at the time, even Watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking..."

  Ray Franz said as much in Crisis of Conscience.

  Typical Wall Street-style business mindset...

  ...the membership is a resource first, and flesh-and-blood people a distant second.
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  Vidiot

  "Do you agree with their philosophy?"

  I agree with all philosophies.

  Even the ones that conflict.

  Especially the ones that conflict, in fact.

  
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Vidiot

  phoenixrising - "...seeing Lett going off the rails when Covid started..."

  Video link?
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Vidiot

  Funny thing about apocalyptic end-time groups...

  ...historically they kinda have to occasionally date-set to drum up zeal amongst the membership.

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  Problem with the WTS is that by now, they've done it so many times that the tactic is long past its sell-by date...

  ...trying it this late in the game would undermine their credibility more than produce the desired result.
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  CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

  disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

  he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

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  Vidiot

  slimboyfat - "...What can they do? 'If you don’t donate more then we’re going to sell your Assembly Hall and local Kingdom Hall'?"

  Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that conversation...