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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

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  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  Vidiot

  I've mentioned this before, but I was, weirdly enough, kind of relieved when they changed the Generation teaching.

  I was still a believer at the time back then, but by the mid-90s, I was cognizant enough about current events that I realized that some time was probably still needed for all the ducks to line up before the Great Trib trigger was pulled, and I'd grasped that - based on prior (assumed) chronology - time was running out.

  I kinda viewed it as the Org having bought some time to still (somehow) be right.

  
  
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  If you think Watchtower is disappearing any time soon…

  by Reservations in

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  2. beliefs

  you are sadly mistaken.. i hear people say it on here all the time, and dare i say his name *cough* lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….. we need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report.

  if we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:.

  by 2030: - 7,933,479. by 2040: - 7,471,357. by 2050: - 7,036,154. i agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the wt organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss.

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  Vidiot

  Pretty sure they're at least "plateauing"; take every number they give out with a Gibraltor-sized pile of salt.

  And when I say "decline", I'm mostly referring to their influence and security.
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  Australian jw org responds to Govt. pressure to participate in sexual abuse redress scheme.

  by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

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  reported in the news today - let's hope victims are duly compensated for their suffering and the org is taken to the cleaners.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-10/jehovahs-witnesses-sign-up-to-sexual-abuse-redress-scheme/100449204.

  cheeses - the wholly holey holy one..

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  Vidiot

  Oh, it happened.

  It was reported on by intrepid journalists a couple years back.
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  Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six

  by Corney in

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  2. child-abuse

  new cases:.

  diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.

  tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.

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  Vidiot

  One last thing.

  For anyone who thinks this is all taking too long, or that all these little individual court cases aren't really making a difference, just remember...

  ...a swarm of hungry piranhas can fuck up your shit way worse than one big shark.
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  Jehovah Witnesses lost in Court. Disfellowshipped Sister Reinstated by Court Order?

  by pistolpete in

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  imagine the "faithful" jws who are now having to talk to this person by court order or face the consequences----legally.. exjws are spreading the news and now some exjws who have been disfellowshipped for years are starting to research to see if this is an option in their country.

  here are the articles, you need to translate in google.

  https://www.nrk.no/norge/gry-nygard-ble-ekskludert-fra-jehovas-vitner-_-vant-i-lagmannsretten-1.15570621.

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  Vidiot

  This is weird, to say the least.

  Personally, I think opponents of the WTS should focus on more concrete methods of fighting them, but that's just me.
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  Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  new cases:.

  diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.

  tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.

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  Vidiot

  BluesBrother - "...if they settle out of court it does not mean that anyone’s guilty... ( if you believe Mr Splane )"

  Technically true... but it also means you were a lot less likely to win the case.

  Not to mention that settling almost always comes with a gag order (although that seems almost quaint at this point ).
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  Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  new cases:.

  diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.

  tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.

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  Vidiot

  road to nowhere - "...the comments on Splanes talk said he was heading off something..."

  Jeezus, yeah; it's the only explanation that makes any sense.

  Ten bucks says they must be getting absolutely inundated with calls from elders fielding questions from the rank-and-file by now...

  ...it's like the old householder accusations of being "false prophets" from back in the day, but way, way worse.

  
  
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  From Paradise Lost To Paradise Regained: Is the WTS the sole promoter of this doctrine?

  by Pallbearer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  howdy folks,.

  i am interested in learning whether or not the watchtower society is the only religious entity that teaches the "from paradise lost to paradise regained" idea.. the "idea" is that god's original purpose for man and the earth has not changed.

  god purposed for adam and eve and their offspring to reproduce and fill the earth and live forever upon it; but the problem of sin entered into the picture and temporarily interrupted that purpose from being completed.

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  Vidiot

  "Is the WTS the sole promoter of this doctrine?"

  Pssh.

  Since when have the Org come up with anything original?

  
  
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  Shocking failures’ in child protection in religious institutions, report finds

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ttps://www.channel4.com/news/shocking-failures-in-child-protection-in-religious-institutions-report-finds?fbclid=iwar0ndvqtbhsyvzrnpdo2gaso1dmidw_fsiosyi4q3gvgli1-b_c76vrsjm8.

  ‘shocking failures’ in child protection in religious institutions, report finds.

  religious institutions are failing to protect children from abuse, according to the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.. www.channel4.com.

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  Vidiot

  And the tide rises another couple inches.
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  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News

  by ballistic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

  this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.

  the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..

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  Vidiot

  @ BluesBrother...

  Never gonna happen.

  Know why?

  'Cause both would result in further investigation...

  ...which runs too high a risk (from the Org's POV) of revealing a history of further non-reporting of more abuse (not to mention an even greater shortage of otherwise "qualified" brothers no longer able to run the Org at the grassroots level).

  In addition (and for more importantly), the information increasingly becoming part of the public record becomes more and more accessible to the rank-and-file, which, in turn, too deeply undermines the fiction of "God's Earthly Organization".

  From the WTS's perspective, that simply cannot be permitted, at any cost.