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  CSA - An Offender Typology.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in relation to a study program being undertaken i came across this accredited article and thought it would be worth sharing with this group.. https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/osa148h6/release/2.

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  Vidiot

  I originally thought the problem started in the 70s and early 80s as (among other things) a side-effect of the Org’s increased insularness after the 1975 embarrassment and apostate witch-hunts that followed…

  …but…

  …now I’m starting to wonder if the JWs weren’t a pedo playground right from the get-go, and the Org leadership deliberately dialed up the exclusivity and persecution rhetoric - and, by extension, the rank-and-file’s suspicion and mistrust of secular authority…

  …specifically to hide it.
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  CSA - An Offender Typology.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in relation to a study program being undertaken i came across this accredited article and thought it would be worth sharing with this group.. https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/osa148h6/release/2.

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  Vidiot

  Wow, that was… exhaustive.

  Know what jumped out at me?

  300+ known offenders and 700+ known victims in the Southern Baptist Convention reported and documented over 20-odd years.

  It’s pretty clear by now that (just numerically, let alone proportionally) the Org has way more of both, though.

  And the WTS is fucking tiny compared to the SBC.

  😵‍💫

  
  
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  'church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately'

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'the spokesperson also said that church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately, even if there is only one complainant.'.

  https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rebekah-vardy-sexually-abused-child-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  is this true?

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  Vidiot

  ThomasMore - “…the floodgates will truly be wide open, and they are already settling more cases out of court than they can afford…”

  This.

  And good luck maintaining the pretence of “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization” once that starts.
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  Revelation book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you remember the jw.org book of revelation and how many times we had to study it?

  in retrospect, all those hours turned out to be for nothing, the explanation of the prophecies is now completely outdated..

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  Vidiot

  Journeyman - “…It’s as though they're out of ideas as to how to explain it…”

  I have no doubt this is exactly the problem.

  Old Freddy Franz’s Cold-War-centric script has gotten pretty dated, and after Ted Jaracz used 9-11 to purge out any of the creative types and out-of-the-box thinkers from WTHQ, there’s no one left with the necessary narrative chops.

  Not to mention that - unlike Franz’s time - they can’t crib any other religions’ ideas without being called out on it.
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  Legal fight over door-to-door notes continues: case goes to Strasbourg

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on 10 june 2019, the finnish jw organization lodged an application against finland with the european court of human rights.

  the case was quickly - by the court's standards - communicated to the finnish government on 10 december 2019. the complaint itself isn't available online but there is a brief summary (see the link above) prepared by the court:.

  the application concerns the jehovah’s witnesses’ religious activities in finland and their compatibility with the data protection regulations.

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  Vidiot

  Something just occurred to me…

  …maybe they’ve realized that the Rising Tide of legal troubles is unstoppable at this point, and they hope that if they provoke Satan’s World just enough to trigger mass “persecution” across the board, Jehovah will step in and bail them out with the Big A.

  😏
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  Official WT 800-page Shunning Manual ??

  by Chevelle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone have a pdf copy of the 800-page book (or reference manual?

  ) "jehovah's witnesses and disfellowshipping"?.

  https://youtu.be/fxpdodqlut8.

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  Vidiot

  Once again, for the newbies, lurkers, and trolls…

  …if you have cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don’t deserve to be defended.
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  Revelation book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you remember the jw.org book of revelation and how many times we had to study it?

  in retrospect, all those hours turned out to be for nothing, the explanation of the prophecies is now completely outdated..

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  Vidiot

  Hmm.

  Maybe the reason they discontinued the Revelation Climax study is ‘cause they knew that eventually, they’d get into a degree of legal trouble that would call their eschatology into question.

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  Revelation book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you remember the jw.org book of revelation and how many times we had to study it?

  in retrospect, all those hours turned out to be for nothing, the explanation of the prophecies is now completely outdated..

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  Vidiot

  re. dropoffyourkeylee’s post…

  Every villain is the hero of his own story.
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  'church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately'

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'the spokesperson also said that church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately, even if there is only one complainant.'.

  https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rebekah-vardy-sexually-abused-child-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  is this true?

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  Vidiot

  And if the Branch tells them to report, they’ve been advised to go into another town, report anonymously, using a pay phone.

  Anybody wanna hazard a guess how often tips like that get investigated (or even taken seriously, FTM)?

  Or - more importantly - whether or not the Branch knows how often?
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  Revelation book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you remember the jw.org book of revelation and how many times we had to study it?

  in retrospect, all those hours turned out to be for nothing, the explanation of the prophecies is now completely outdated..

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  Vidiot

  This, IMO, may be coming back to bite them on the ass in a very unexpected way, now.

  We studied the Revelation Climax book so thoroughly that the sequence of events is kinda set in stone…

  …and in old Freddy Franz’s End Times interpretation, “Babylon the Great” gets attacked by the “Wild Beast” first, whilst Jehovah’s Witnesses are supposedly attacked last.

  Yet, it’s the Watchtower that currently seems to be under siege…

  …and as much as organized religion seems to be genuinely in decline overall, “Babylon” keeps on keepin’ on.

  I could be wrong.