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  Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.

  he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.

  we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.

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  Vidiot

  I just remembered a long time ago when an older sister I once knew was constantly complaining about how the federal government had “banned” corporal punishment.

  Eventually, I got so goddamned sick of hearing it I finally said, “wow, you must’ve really liked it, considering how much you complain about how you miss it” (paraphrasing, but not much).

  The look on her face was fucking priceless.

  More importantly, I said this in front of the whole bookstudy group and did not get in any trouble for it…

  …and she never brought the subject up again.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .

  the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.

  they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.

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  Vidiot

  If your religion intentionally sets its followers up for martyrdom…

  …they’re not genuine martyrs.
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  Elder abuser in Sunshine Coast down under (?)

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  not sure if this has been posted or not, apologies if it has.

  i did a quick search and did not see it.

  https://archive.md/5zcdi -a sunshine coast jehovah’s witness figure accused of horrific sex crimes has been remanded in jail for fresh offences which allegedly occurred the same day he attended court.. and https://archive.md/r2o6x -a sunshine coast jehovah’s witness figure who allegedly used his position in the church to sexually assault young men has been arrested by police.

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  Vidiot

  When you spend decades alienating and ostracizing people of genuine value… eventually, all you’re left with are the shitty ones.

  And then you’re stuck with ‘em… effectively enabling them… ‘cause you can’t get anyone better.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Vidiot

  The majority of JWs aren’t particularly violent (passivity is promoted - if indirectly - in WT rhetoric, after all), so I’m not too worried about angry loyalists seeking retribution…

  …but I’d be surprised if some of ‘em didn’t at least try to blame “apostates” for the Tower crumbling (as logically - and from the WT’s POV, theologically - impossible as that is).

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Vidiot

  Considering most JW loyalists can’t seem to tie their fucking shoelaces without the WT’s “direction”, I can just imagine how dysfunctional some dutiful congregation would get after the first week or two of hunkering down in some poor semi-rural elder’s bunker half-finished walkout basement, waiting anxiously for the all-clear.

  😏
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  The "Problem" With Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is the org's problem with zoom, attending this way does not fit with their "scriptural definition" of a christian gathering.

  at least not anymore, one thing my pimi wife is fine with is attending on zoom occasionally, even 2-3 times a month or so.. if some of you recall, during covid there were break out rooms setup for people to stay on and associate.

  many would also stay in the main meeting and talk over each other trying to say hello, etc.

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  Vidiot

  “You get a congregation privilege! And you get a congregation privilege! And you get a congregation privilege!!!”

  😆
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  What's the org like now?

  by Leathercrop in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  even tho i've been expelled about 4 years now, i truly checked out around 2015. changes in the org i think we're just starting to get going.

  i remember the kingdom songs suddenly getting the taylor swift treatment aka pop music treatment.

  meetings were getting axed or meshed together or something.

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  Vidiot

  Beth Sarim - “Salvation at the last minute… I dont think that shit has hit the fan yet in the Borg rank and file…”

  Nope, not yet.

  The way it’s worded, I’m not even sure the R&F will put together the implications right away.

  If they did, the smarter ones might justify it by comparing the situation to the apostle Thomas, who actually did need proof he could see and touch (and who, I might add, was not vilified for it).

  Either way, it may take a while to fully sink in.
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  Where is everyone? 😆

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a day off today and needed to get some errands done in my local town.

  2 carts have allocated here but i never ever see anyone out, even on very nice days.

  70% of the congregation don’t work.

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  Vidiot

  Damn, they’ve weaponized it twice.

  First, to hide pedophilia, and then this to suss out dissenters.

  🤨
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  Where is everyone? 😆

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a day off today and needed to get some errands done in my local town.

  2 carts have allocated here but i never ever see anyone out, even on very nice days.

  70% of the congregation don’t work.

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  Vidiot

  Using Zoom to tune out or even fade…

  …quietly going to post-secondary school despite the rhetoric…

  …guys not pursuing congregation privileges…

  …never underestimate the power of passive resistance.
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  Where is everyone? 😆

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a day off today and needed to get some errands done in my local town.

  2 carts have allocated here but i never ever see anyone out, even on very nice days.

  70% of the congregation don’t work.

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  Vidiot

  ElderBerry - “… I do want to be there for good friends who are JWs so that over the next few years as the tower falls we can be there for them to soften the blow as they go through all the stages of grief as the organisation crumbles.”

  A commendable attitude.

  Are you confident there’ll actually be enough of those to bother?