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  Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .

  the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.

  they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.

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  Jeezus, Not…

  …they make that many changes, they’d hardly even BE “Jehovah’s Witnesses” any more.

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  Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

  here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

  he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

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  PetrW - “…they told him that I was ‘deep in apostasy’. 😁😁😁 Yes, yes, he's deep into apostasy… So, I give JW another 20, maybe 30 years or so, when they will definitely abandon the chronological speculation on 1914 and also like me, fallen into apostasy😁😁😁…”

  That’s ‘cause the GB doesn’t view being wrong as “apostasy”.

  They view thinking they’re wrong as “apostasy”.
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  @ ElderBerry…

  So…

  …do you actually think that the Org can successfully accomplish genuine mainstream reform?

  And survive?
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  Unacceptable type/antitype for JW'S.....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  .........because it would cancel out their "upper & lower class christians" fairy story - aka the anointed & non-anointed.. antitype: the fleshly nation of israel and exodus foreigner converts were participants of the mosaic covenant.. type: christianity - the israel of god ("spiritual israel") and gentile converts became participants in the new covenant..

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  I think so, yeah.
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  ElderBerry - “…The secret elders book keeps getting revised versions every few months and these revisions are not making things more strict but far easier…”

  Wait, seriously? This is news.

  The suicidal loophole’s been around a while, but what other examples are you talking about?
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  Holy barbasol Batman! Beards are now allowed!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  latest gb update.

  only took them 20 years to see beards are acceptable in society.

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  Riley - “How do you expect us to believe the end is so close if they don’t even believe it?”

  Nice.

  All the available anecdotal and circumstantial evidence indicates the GB are, indeed, True Believers…

  …but I’ll admit, the current crop sure don’t display the same level of certainty and sincerity as their predecessors during the WTS’s Golden Age.

  Part and parcel of believing it’s true whilst knowing it’s wrong at the same time, I guess.
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  ThomasMore - “…Brothers don’t fade because they want to grow a beard…”

  Nope, they grow a beard because they want to fade.

  😏
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  This week’s watchtower 🤬

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just been watching a youtube video by jw escape, lovely lady.

  the subject was this weeks watchtower - “are you ready to obey?”.

  what a blatant psyop this is.

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  Yup.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .

  the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.

  they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.

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  Vidiot

  It’s easy for loyal JWs to ignore bad news when it’s presented in the popular media… it’s notoriously unreliable, after all…

  …but…

  …when it’s a matter of official Public Record, more and more testimony and personal experience backs it up, and the Org keeps losing over and over and over (i.e. God doesn’t miraculously deliver them or provide a victory against all odds)…

  …it becomes harder and harder to simply hand-wave it all away.
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  It’s funny…

  …back in they day, one of the more compelling (and less dodgy) arguments the WT leadership used was that a clean-shaven look was viewed as respectable… in The World.

  Ten bucks says the current crop would rather gargle with broken glass than admit anything in The World can even be respectable.