Yup.
Which reminds me of something I find very worrisome when it comes to ideology of any kind…
…the idea that believing something without a shred of evidence is considered the highest of virtues, rather than the opposite.
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
Yup.
Which reminds me of something I find very worrisome when it comes to ideology of any kind…
…the idea that believing something without a shred of evidence is considered the highest of virtues, rather than the opposite.
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
Which reminds me of another of my Dad’s gems…
…that “Worldly” parents didn’t love their children like Witness parents did.
For the record, I had a harder time swallowing that one.
EDIT: In his defence, he mellowed considerably as we both got older. In retrospect, I think it started after he stopped being an elder, but I’m not 100% sure.
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
This actually reminds me of something my Dad used to say when I was really little…
…that deep down, “The World” actually knew we had “The Truth”, and that’s why mean governments hated us, and not-so-mean governments grudgingly helped us sometimes (paraphrasing, but not much)*.
Being a little kid who naturally assumed my Dad was right, I once said this to other neighborhood kids.
You can probably guess how that went.
*Needless to say, he did not have a particularly high opinion of the government. He even said once that democracy was basically two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner. One bad day, he even spouted his own theory that they wished they could euthanize all senior senior citizens so they wouldn’t have to pay their pensions (in Canada, no less). Seriously.
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
NotFormer - “…they're already saying that they're not special… But they still want the R&F to treat them as God's earthly channel… while they want governments to believe that they have no influence over JWs…”
…and financially subsidize or exempt them from paying taxes, don’t forget.
“We’re not special…
…we’re super-special!!!”
personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.
that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.
i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.
Being cut off the public teat for breaking the rules…
…is “persecution”?
(revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!
) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.
btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".
Xenu factors in, too, somehow, I’m sure.
eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.
Never underestimate the power of passive resistance.
Remember, India regained their independence from the British Empire that way.
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
I’d suspect joey was counting service time…
… but they don’t really do that anymore.
😏
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
Obrien - “…Back in my day you had to go door to door and earn the ridicule…”
😎
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-29/jehovahs-witnesses-not-reporting-all-child-sex-abuse-to-police-/103320582.
national news story in australia today.. the inquiry heard that since the 1950s, the witnesses hid more than 1,000 cases of child sexual abuse.the faith group did not report one case to police over that time.the royal commission was announced in 2012 and the final report was delivered in 2017.in the wake of the institutional failings exposed by the commission, western australia’s mandatory reporting requirements were expanded to include religious ministers in 2021.it meant that they would have to report child sexual abuse to authorities.however, despite it being post royal commission, documents show how the religious group conducted its own internal investigation.the religious leaders did not report the matter to police.
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From their POV, they can’t report to the authorities…
…anywhere.
If they did, the true depth and breadth of the problem would be exposed in a manner too difficult to simply dismiss, undermining the Org’s legitimacy in the eyes of the membership, and even worse, potentially placing their “charity” status at risk…
…and if the rumours are true and the Org’s solvency is hanging by a thread, that’s a risk they don’t dare take.
Yet, ironically, their refusal to fully acknowledge the problem and take appropriate steps to fix it properly threatens to undermine them just as effectively in the long(er) run.
Screwed if they do, buggered if they don’t.