Posts by Dumplin

You have to have that "get off my lawn!" posture . i agree w/ the Amway reference. How do you stop these sort? Sometimes, you have to hurt their feelings to get through to them. You've done that already, and it worked. If they take it to the next step, just keep doing the same thing. ... let them know (in your own way) how offensive the intrusion is to you to the point of making you want to quit the religion entirely. And that's honest too... "You offend me". They don't want to stumble anybody, so use that against them. I finally told one elder: "I told Jehovah to just let me die" ...he asked: "you mean at Armageddon?" I said: "I don't care when." He got up immediately and walked out of my house (i think he got afraid i might do something to him). Never had any trouble after that. He knew not to mess with me.

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Have my beautiful blessing from jehovah

by Ghiagirl in

as my husband always says sarcastically about our newborn son, how people contradict themselves.

well he is a blessing but he is also the reason you are being shunned and were run out of the organization because you had premarital sex.

my beautiful son is finally here, and who texts and calls us the day he is born??

Dumplin

Congrats on your son!!! Babies are such a delightful wonder...and then watching them grow and learn. My wife and I have raised 5 children and it was quite a ride! Now we get to watch our 9 grandchildren grow up all over again. Best ride you can go on by far.

I have no idea what goes thru a Jw mind anymore (and I don't want to go back and remember either because it just makes me feel puny and small for even being duped into following that religion in the first place). I just stand at a distance now and pity them all. They have a "collective consciousness" which disallows them from having any original or compassionate thoughts about anything. At least your family's out... Good. So now you never want to let them (JWs) get a foot in your door again. Take the power away from them as soon as you can. This seems like a good time however you choose to do that. Use your anger for strength. They can never influence your child. Protect and cherish him at all costs. He will grow up and be able to think for himself! What a blessing!

my best to you, Dumplin

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interesting stuff re the RC in my local area

by umbertoecho in

i was sent a list of places i could contact in my part of wa.

i was cautious.

i always ask if they are jws.

Dumplin

Validation feels good. The RC's got the jump on you Juliette. They know what's needed. What a kick in the pants! I really love them. My wish for you is that you'll soon feel free enough to let go of the "cautious" feeling. I struggle with that also.

lot of love back at'cha! Mike

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I almost gave up today except for a girl her tried to throw herself infront of two cars.............

by umbertoecho in

this may sound insane but i literally have blood on my hands as i have just come home from a counselling session that went wrong...i wanted to collate all that has happened and record it...hospital policy is against it.

i said "what am i alive for then if not to tell the truth" she tut tutted and i walked out sadly in despair.. when i got to the ground floor there was a young girl screaming her head off.

she was afraid, that is all she was...........afraid.

Dumplin

A little off topic, but as I read through this thread tonight I was thinking about the very real concern that the RC has shown and is still showing victims who have been where Riley is. They are quick to respond to emails and implore other victims to come forward to receive their help. I think they share your deep feelings for victims Juliette.

But remember when Jackson told the RC that "if they would just make reporting child abuse mandatory, it would make it easier" for JWs? WTF?? So much of religion is arrogance masquerading as humility. The world needs "mad bastards" like us to expose these leaders for the heartless, unconcerned a**holes that they are. Angus, too, was relentless and was not going to let these charlatans get away with their deceptions.

How unlike Jackson, though, was your knee-jerk reaction to show Riley love, Juliette.

One scripture I still remember is that 'love throws fear outside' or something like that and also that 'there is no greater love than to lay down your life for another'...or, I might add, to risk it like you did by putting yourself in harm's way for Riley. And my gut is telling me - I think she may want to see you again

What you did is very motivating to me to not be wrapped up in myself so much that I forget others suffer too . .

And I've said this before too: I'm glad I found all of you guys.

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I almost gave up today except for a girl her tried to throw herself infront of two cars.............

by umbertoecho in

this may sound insane but i literally have blood on my hands as i have just come home from a counselling session that went wrong...i wanted to collate all that has happened and record it...hospital policy is against it.

i said "what am i alive for then if not to tell the truth" she tut tutted and i walked out sadly in despair.. when i got to the ground floor there was a young girl screaming her head off.

she was afraid, that is all she was...........afraid.

Dumplin

Very motivating Juliette.

I"ve posted this once before Juliette, but your experience reminded me of it again. Bob Dylan's Brownsville Girl.

"Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than people who are most content
I don’t have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I’m gone
You always said people don’t do what they believe in, they just do what’s most convenient, then they repent
And I always said, “Hang on to me, baby, and let’s hope that the roof stays on”

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Are we helping to fulfill "prophecy"?

by LexIsFree in

i'm sure this has been discussed before, but i have been thinking the last few days about all of us.

the "evil apostate" family.

we all have suffered at the hands of the org and their brain washing of our family and friends.

Dumplin

Proverbs 29:27
"The righteous detest the dishonest; the wicked detest the upright" - (mainly because they don't like others to expose their dishonesty)

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ARC Review

by Joe Grundy in

i've been looking again at the coverage of the arc examination of jw witnesses.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bonw67c9sew.

in particular, watch this again from 1h47m to the end.. i think i've made this point elsewhere, but you will rarely see this sort of thing happening in courts (maybe outside tv perry mason stuff).. in the context of british/aussie polite courtroom speak, the witness is accused of lying, his (the wt) lawyer is quick to disassociate himself from the lies, the lawyer offers a consultant's sick certificate, the judge tells him 'that won't help', and jackson is scheduled for the following week.. this doesn't happen very often and stripping away the polite courtroom speak is very revealing..

Dumplin

I think the goal of the RC in this segment is to clearly establish that Terrence O'Brien is a liar. But not only is O'Brien a liar, but freeze-frame the video at 1:49:04 and then tell me that those WT lawyers aren't in on this whole lie. Their reaction is very telling. That look is the look of pure guilt...they've been cornered and caught in their deception. Everyone in that courtroom knows as well as the whole world watching this.

WT is so paranoid of this type of exposure b/c it reveals to everyone that they are fully aware that they are a part of a fake religion. It has been debated often whether the GB knows they are lying or if they really believe their own bs. I submit this as evidence that they do in fact know.

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The Teacher

by compound complex in

jw
friends

an unwelcome dawn comes creeping upward, her tendrils straddling the dark mountain so terribly near my once sweet but now quaking refuge called home of the heart.. i peer through panes that give onto a landscape of horror that, to some, appears pristine but to me is a reminder that he has been swallowed up by a wood both black and cruel.. daring to venture forth, i hear his voice .

.

.. he calls out, so faintly, begging i rescue him from a jail that holds him fast against all escape; though myself a liberated man, i cannot free the one i taught the truth.

Dumplin

let'r rip tater chip

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Let’s Speculate!!!

by John Aquila in

you know the organization is slowly going down.

not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

Dumplin

To be honest, I'm starting to dislike this thread. Just the idea of JWs still being here in 2050 is stressing me out. Now i have to go re-watch RC hearings just to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

(oh, this is off-topic, & I don't know if everyone knows this or not - but we have a resident prophet here on this forum. It's true... maybe we should just go ask him about this. I watched in amazement his predictions come true right before my very eyes not long ago):

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/425910001/gb-member-geoffrey-jackson-lying

Billy, where are u???