I will bet nothing but watch it unfold, even as you say. hahah
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Transcript of Annual Meeting Notes and events from unknown source
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inthey were married for some 51 years.
you cannot stand up against them in battle.
you cannot stand up against him in battle.
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Transcript of Annual Meeting Notes and events from unknown source
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inthey were married for some 51 years.
you cannot stand up against them in battle.
you cannot stand up against him in battle.
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itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat
dropoffyourkeylee takes credit for these. I just got them off the internet my friend.
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Transcript of Annual Meeting Notes and events from unknown source
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inthey were married for some 51 years.
you cannot stand up against them in battle.
you cannot stand up against him in battle.
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One thing that strikes me about the part at the beginning is the Euology for FDS members who are gone.
OK maybe nice for the wives who were there. On the local level with the "RANK AND FILE" as they like to call
particularly publishers and even to a degree Elders and MS's. Any type of Eulogy is off limits at a funeral. The
funeral outline actually says "keep comments about the person limited to a minute or two, and no eulogy or
anything like it. So, by the time you mention who they are, their family , how long in the borg, when baptized,
that is it. I hate that. Even if you are against JWs, people that have lived full lives, been kind, and had an
impact on "things"...people, business, artistic.....I mean if ever there was a time to give a person credit
for something other than blind obedience. That would be the time....don't you think? I'm pissed!
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Transcript of Annual Meeting Notes and events from unknown source
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inthey were married for some 51 years.
you cannot stand up against them in battle.
you cannot stand up against him in battle.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Post 7 of 7
Since 9/12/2011How did you get my notes from the big meeting? That's exactly the notes I took!
Answer: The internet moves in mysterious ways my friend. Thousands probably have the notes you sent to someone at some point a few days ago. When I got it, names and any identities had been removed, hence "unknown source"
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Transcript of Annual Meeting Notes and events from unknown source
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inthey were married for some 51 years.
you cannot stand up against them in battle.
you cannot stand up against him in battle.
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itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat
October 1, 2011 Annual Meeting of Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania at the Jersey City Assembly Hall
The meeting began with the singing of Song #28 “ The New Song ” followed by the opening prayer.
The chairman for the meeting was Brother Gerritt Losch. He also gave the first talk. Here are some facts he provided: At the United States Bethel some 73 different languages are spoken. These Bethelites have been assigned to 18 different language congregations/groups in the region. There are 20,000 Bethelites around the world. About 85 different countries were represented at this year’s Annual Meeting.
The beautiful “noise” of the growing flock of God’s people was noted after quoting Micah 2:12. The unity of Jehovah’s people was discussed at length. Zephaniah 3:9 and Ephesians 1:9, 10 were quoted to show God’s interest in unifying his people in word and deed. ‘Our unity has been demonstrated in having Black district overseers over predominantly white areas and Brothers who come from gypsy background serving as district overseers in Europe.’ Other examples were given to show the obvious love the brothers have for one another. Who was next?
Brother Baltasar Pala who is on loan from the U.S. Branch to the Bethel in Mexico spoke next. Six Central American branch offices have now been merged into the Branch office in Mexico. A more multi-cultural branch office has been the result. 252 missionaries were affected by this merger. A Special desk was set up just for the missionaries and they have been given e-mail access to this Desk for any needs. Some 80 language groups and some 70 translators are under this new consolidated branch office. About 800,000 publishers are now under this new arrangement.
Brother James Linton, originally from Australia, next spoke giving an update on the brothers in Japan. Following the tsunami disaster in Japan some 1,700 Japanese brothers and sisters volunteered to help those Witnesses affected by the disaster. (Prov17:17) The public has been favorably impressed by the outstanding love shown by the Witnesses in helping those suffering losses because of the tsunamis and the nuclear power plant disaster. The Japanese Branch covers not only Japan but Cambodia, Bangladesh and Mongolia. There are 300 publishers in Mongolia. Bear in mind, not long ago there were no publishers in Mongolia. In Phnom Penh, the capital of Cambodia, there are now 6 congregations. 38 were baptized in Cambodia last year.
Next on the program was Brother Steve Hardy and a panel of brothers. Phil Brumley from the American Bethel legal department discussed legal challenges that have faced Jehovah’s Witnesses. He reflected on the 16 year battle the Witnesses of Jehovah in France have had with the French government’s attempt to tax the organization on its voluntary contributions received. The tax amount was staggering and the motive behind all of this was clearly an attack on our faith. The situation looked very bad. The French higher courts upheld the tax claim against the Witnesses and so the Witnesses appealed the matter to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR). Prayers galore were going up to Jehovah. On the day and at the time the ECHR rendered a decision, it was 4:30am in Brooklyn, New York. Needless to say, some tired eyes at the international headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses were jolted awake with joy when the ECHR rendered a decision in defense of Jehovah’s Witnesses in France. The ECHR ruled that the French government violated Article 9 which outlawed government attacks on religion. It is felt this decision by the ECHR has positive implications for some 70 young Armenian Witnesses imprisoned because of their refusal to join the military. Armenia seems to have violated Article 9 also.
Following this, Brother Guy Pierce discussed the subject “Watchtower Properties.” He said “It is now official: Jehovah’s Witnesses are moving their headquarters out of Brooklyn. The rumors can now end.”
The headquarters is moving from 25 Columbia Heights in Brooklyn, New York to Warwick, New York some 50 north of Brooklyn. Some 12 newly constructed buildings are planned at Warwick. Elsewhere, since 2009 the facilities at Wallkill have been physically expanded. And the Patterson complex continues with its many functions, schools, audio-visual department etc. And, not far from Warwick—about 6 miles away-- the Society has purchased land in a town called Tuxedo
“In Tuxedo, we will have a staging area for the construction work that will be done.” Brother Pierce was emphatic “We will be moving completely out of Brooklyn to Warwick.” He mentioned that, currently, there is one Witness to every 920 people in the world today.
In a point of clarification, Brother Pierce said that we should not confuse the US Branch with the World Headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses. They are not the same. The US Branch like any other Branch is under the World Headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Brother Pierce questioned, “What if Armageddon comes in the middle of all of these changes? “ After a brief pause, he exclaimed, “Wonderful” and the clapping of hands followed.
Next Brother Mark Sanderson conducted a memorable session. Sitting in 5 chairs facing the auditorium were 5 widows. All 5 of these sisters had been married to members of the anointed. They were Sister Barber [Carey Barber], Sister Suiter [Grant Suiter], Sister Jaracz [Theodore Jaracz]. Sister Berry [Lloyd Barry] and Sister Sydlik [Daniel Sydlik]. Each sister talked about being married to a very busy husband who worked tirelessly in behalf of others. All commented on how their husbands took time with them and helped them grow spiritually. Sister Barber met Carey while at the Gilead missionary school. They worked 20 years in the circuit work before coming to Brooklyn Bethel. They were married for some 51 years. Before Sister Barry married Lloyd she had served a company servant [presiding elder] in a congregation in Australia. There were no baptized brothers in that congregation for awhile. Later after she married Lloyd, she and Lloyd served in Japan for a number of years. When they first came to Japan there were only 3 baptized Witnesses in Japan. They shared some 72 years of full time service. Next was Sister Jaracz. Sister Jaracz is from Canada. She married Theodore Jaracz in 1956. Eight weeks after their marriage they were assigned to the circuit work in the US South. Ted was invited to be a member of the Governing Body in 1974. Sister Suiter now spoke. Sister Edith Suiter started pioneering in 1946 and married Grant Suiter in 1956. She mused that she never heard him complain about anything. The last sister to comment was Sister Sydlik. Her part was very moving.
She stated what most of us know and that is that Dan Sydlik was a kind, warm engaging person. She said that she missed the quiet times they had together discussing spiritual things. As he was dying he became a little difficult, but she said that her reassuring words of love and firmness was comforting to him. She said that women married to spiritual men have an immense influence on such men and that their words of love and support can do much to encourage, strengthen and comfort them. ‘ Wives, commend your hard working husbands !” Tears could be seen in the audience.
At this point, there was a pause as all stood and sang Song 86 “Faithful Women.”
Governing Body member Brother Steve Lett was the next speaker. His part was headed “Beware of the Roaring Lion.” ‘Even though the lion can symbolize good things as at Revelation 5:5 where the “lion” represents our Lord Jesus Christ, there are places in the Bible where the lion represents what is bad. One place is 1 Peter 5:8, 9 where we read: “Keep your senses, be watchful. Your adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour someone. But take your stand against him.” Brother Lett then identified how it’s that Satan is like lion:
Lions kill without mercy . A male lion taking over a pride of females will often kill their cubs so that all cubs they produce are his. Shows no mercy on lion cubs or the animals he kills to eat. The Devil does not care if he “devours” you or your children. The Devil shows no mercy to others. He does not care how you suffer.
Lions are exceedingly strong . You cannot stand up against them in battle. You will lose. The Devil is a strong spirit creature. You cannot stand up against him in battle. Unless Jehovah is in your life you WILL lose!
If a lion approaches, do not run and do not fall and play dead. If you run he will catch you and if you fall and play dead he will proceed to enjoy his dead meal. Scientist s have seen that the most effect thing to do is to stop and face the lion and slowly move away. Facing the lion has saved many a soul. How about the dealing with an attack of the Devil? The scripture says:
“Take your stand against him.” Which means you do not run or play dead!! You face him in power of Jehovah standing shoulder to shoulder with your brothers and sisters. You refuse to give up or give in.
Brother Samuel Herd from the Governing Body next spoke. His part was entitled “Appreciating Our Place in Jehovah’s House.” He reflected “There is no place like home!! During the last few days of Jesus life on the earth, he talked about going home. (John 14:1, 2) David commented that no place was like Jehovah’s House and being there. Ps 26:8; 27:4; Psalm 84:10. All of us should love being in Jehovah’s house and appreciating our place in Jehovah’s house –where ever it is.
Following Brother Herd was Brother David Splane of the Governing Body. His talk was “True Christians Respect God’s Word.” He showed how the Early Christians constantly used God’s Word, the Bible as the fundamental source of Truth but that after the apostolic period the new brand of “Christianity” increasingly wanted to make itself more appealing to the educated pagans and thus started to weave into its “Christianity” pagan notions and philosophical views that were opposed to Bible truths. The foretold apostasy took root in Christianity but there were always some, that is members of the wheat class, who attempted to get back to the Bible truths. Brother Splane mentioned the names of some who tried to get back to Bible truths—men like Peter Waldo, Henry Grew etc. ‘We do not know if they were members of the anointed but they may have been.’ He then brought the history up to the time of Charles T. Russell. Jehovah’s modern day organization honors, respects and promotes the Bible as God’s Word. He then announced the Year Text for 2012 which from John 17:17 where Jesus says in prayer to Jehovah: “Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.”
Next Brother Anthony Morris of the Governing Body gave a talk on the status of our missionaries and he mentioned that beginning 2012 there will be no separate meeting during the district convention for those wanting to go to Gilead Missionary School. The Society has set up a new school called the Bible School for Christian Couples. Those interested in going to this new school will be invited to a session on how to do so during the district convention. Since many who have attended Gilead were married couples that raises the question: What is the difference between these two schools? It turns out that in the future those going to Gilead will be from the ranks of special pioneers, circuit overseers etc. whereas that will not be the case for those attending the Bible School for Married Couples. More information will follow.
Brother Losch gave the last talk. He noted that as of July 2011 the New World Translation had been produced in 100 languages. He mentioned that there were 5,519 in attendance at the Jersey City Assembly Hall and tied in: 2,887 at Brooklyn Bethel, 410 at Canadian Bethel, 2,940 at Wallkill, and 2,836 at Patterson for a total of 18,592. A final prayer ended the meeting.
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Reliable History proves Xerxes reigned for eleven years?
by VM44 inin a 1922 letter that was published in the watch tower under the title "mistakes of ptolemy, the pagan historian" morton edgar wrote the following concerning xerxes.. .
"...ptolemy made another well-known mistake in his list of kings, namely, by mixing up the names of two kings called xerxes, and artaxerxes.
ptolemy's canon makes a mistake of ten years in the reign of xerxes, saying that he reigned for twenty-one years, whereas reliable history proves conclusively that xerxes reigned for eleven years only.".
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itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat
Thank you for your comments Leolaia. Such a different name? I wonder where it comes from? Of course I am the last person on JW.net to express that comment with itsi....................................as a name...hahah
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Does anyone have the 1957 Kingdom Ministry newsletters?
by peace_lily ini'm looking for an article from one of the 1957 kingdom ministry newsletters.
i'm sorry idk the month, but the title was something like "which world did god so love?
" i heard don nelson refer to it in his testimony, and i've been wanting to read it.. i don't want to put anyone out, but if anyone has it in pdf, a copy/paste of that article would be much appreciated..
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itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat
No problem my friend
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C.O. Jonsson's response to Watchtower's latest 607 articles
by wannabefree inhttp://kristenfrihet.se/vtsvar/vtsvar1.pdf.
(thanks to augustin for bringing this to our attention in another thread.
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Does anyone have the 1957 Kingdom Ministry newsletters?
by peace_lily ini'm looking for an article from one of the 1957 kingdom ministry newsletters.
i'm sorry idk the month, but the title was something like "which world did god so love?
" i heard don nelson refer to it in his testimony, and i've been wanting to read it.. i don't want to put anyone out, but if anyone has it in pdf, a copy/paste of that article would be much appreciated..
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itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat
*** w591/15pp.61-64QuestionsFromReaders***
? AtJohn3:16,17,what“world”didGodlovesomuch,andwhat“world”didGodsendJesus,nottojudge,buttosave?
In John’s account of Jesus’ life the English word “world” is translated from the Greek word kósmos, which occurs at least seventy-nine times in the original text of John’s account. Fundamentally, kósmos means “order,” that is, a constituted order, an arrangement, an ordering of things according to a certain design, an arrangement of things according to a certain pattern.
However, whenever in John’s account we read the word kósmos, we must not in every case at once think of a world made up of heavens and an earth, the heavens being composed of invisible controlling spirit forces and the earth being composed of human creatures subject and submissive to the control of those invisible spirit forces. Hence we should not at once think of such kinds of world which have been or will yet be associated with this earth—the Edenic world of Adam and Eve’s innocency; the world outside the garden of Eden or the world of the ungodly before the Flood; the present world of the “heavens and the earth that are now”; and the coming new world of “new heavens and a new earth.” If we always think of such worlds we may run into confusion and wonder which is the one of those several worlds that is meant.
For example, take John’s first four uses of the word kósmos or “world.” We read: “The true light which gives light to every kind of man was about to come into the world [1]. He was in the world [2], and the world [3] came into existence through him, but the world [4] did not take note of him. He came to his own home, but his own people did not take him in.” (John 1:9-11) Now, into what world did Jesus come as the true light? It is true that this occurred during the time of the world made up of the “heavens and the earth that are now.” (2 Pet. 3:7) But is this the “world” that John 1:9-11 means? Was this the world that “came into existence through him”? Was this “his own home” to which he came, but none of which took him in?
We must keep in mind that Jesus came out of the invisible, higher spirit realms into the visible, lower earthly or fleshly realms. This was why he said to the Jews: “You are from the realms below; I am from the realms above. You are from this world; I am not from this world.” (John 8:23) Here Jesus was identifying one world with the “realms above,” and another world with the “realms below.” He said that the people from the realms below were “from this world.” He himself, being from the realms above, was therefore “not from this world.” What, then, was this world? Yes, it was an established order or an arrangement; but for there to be an order or arrangement, there have to be things or people to be set in a certain order or to be arranged a certain way. It is clear, then, that the word “world” in its usage by John here would mean the people who are in a certain arrangement or constituted order and subject to a certain system of things.
Now, to return to John 1:9-11: Jesus, the true light that gives light to every kind of man, was once about to come into the world, that is to say, come in among the arranged people or the people subject to a certain set order. Jesus came from above, from among angels, and he came among people on earth, human creatures living according to the order of things that prevailed among them. As long as he was in the flesh, and particularly during his public ministry when he sought contact with all the people, the lost sheep of the house of Israel, he was in this world of people. He was the Word of God, by means of whom all things came into existence. Hence Jesus Christ was responsible for the existence of this world of people, although not exactly for the arrangement or constituted order according to which they lived and worked.
Did this world of people “take note of him”? John 1:10 says that it did not. That is, the majority of the people did not do so. They clung to their preferred order to which they conformed; they wanted no change. So his own people, creatures who owed their existence to his original work, did not take him in, not even the Jews. But did nobody at all accept the light or take note of him or take him in? John 1:12 says that some did so. It says: “However, as many as did receive him, to them he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name.”
Since the greater part of this world of people treated Jesus that way, it could be said that the world hated Jesus. When Jesus’ own half brothers said to him: “Manifest yourself to the world,” Jesus said to them: “The world has no reason to hate you, but it hates me, because I bear witness concerning [the world] that its works are wicked.” (John 7:4-7) For this reason Jesus did not manifest himself to the world of people, but went up secretly to the feast at Jerusalem, to thwart attempts of the world to kill him out of its hatred. For the greater part, the world of people did not love him and they would not love those who came out of this world of people and became Jesus’ followers. So he said to his apostles: “These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you.”—John 15:17-19.
In order to hate, the world has to be made up of people, creatures with the capacity to hate. Jesus did not pray for these haters, the hateful world of people. To his heavenly Father he prayed: “I make request concerning them [the men you gave me out of the world]; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those you have given me, . . . Also I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you.” “They are no part of the world just as I am no part of the world. Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth. Just as you sent me forth into the world, I also sent them forth into the world.” “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their [apostolic] word, in order that they may all be one, . . . Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I have come to know you, and these have come to know that you sent me forth.”—John 17:9-11, 16-18, 20, 21, 25.
Now in this connection, who was it that the heavenly Father, Jehovah God, loved? Was it the whole world of people, of whom his apostles and later believers ceased to be a part? Let Jesus answer these questions in his own prayer: “I in union with them [not with the world] and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, that the world may have the knowledge that you sent me forth and that you loved them just as you loved me. . . . because you loved me before the world’s foundation.” (John 17:23, 24) God loved those who loved the one whom he loved, his Son Jesus Christ. The world of people did not love the Father’s beloved Son. Those who ceased to be one with the world of people and who became one with Jesus Christ loved him. Those in union with Jesus Christ were the ones whom the heavenly Father loved. This excludes the world of people from the Father’s love. Any of this world of people who desired to come into the Father’s love had to quit hating Jesus as the world was doing. They had to separate from this loveless world and had to love God’s Son and come into union with the Son. These become the ones whom God the Father loves just as he loves his Son.
On this basis of understanding, let us now consider John 3:16, 17, over which the original questions were raised. The verses in question read: “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.” Jesus’ words here do not refer to that large, comprehensive arrangement or constituted order made up of symbolic heavens and earth, “the heavens and the earth that are now.” Jesus is here talking about people, about people living on the literal earth and living according to a certain order or arrangement, as they are living under the invisible “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil. (2 Pet. 3:7; John 12:31) Certainly God did not love the symbolic heavens, composed of Satan the Devil and his demons. Hence the world that Jesus said God loved is a restricted one and does not include the symbolic “heavens . . . that are now.”
Certainly in sending his Son into this world of people on earth Jehovah God the Father was performing a loving act toward this world. The taking of steps to save people of this world, instead of destroying this world of people outright with every member of it, was an action of love toward this world. No particular individuals in this world of people were singled out, although Jesus was sent directly to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Thus anybody and everybody of this world of people could take advantage of what God was doing through his Son. Because it was a loving act of God for the benefit of anyone and everyone in this world of people, God’s giving of his Son was an expression of love for the world of people living under the “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil.
This did not mean, though, that everybody of this world of organized people would respond to that love and would come into God’s love and prove worthy of God’s love. That was why, without naming names of any individuals and without specifying any certain persons, Jesus added the conditional words: “In order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.” It is only “everyone exercising faith in him” that will “have everlasting life.” Those not “exercising faith in him” will “be destroyed.” Those not exercising the necessary faith prove to be in the majority, for which reason the world of people in general, without naming names, will be destroyed.
So from being a general love for this world of people, Jehovah’s love becomes a specific love for those who exercise faith in his Son and who love his Son and come into union with him. These are the ones who will “have everlasting life” in that righteous new order of the future and who make up a part of its new heavens and new earth. They are really people of the new order, for by coming into loving union and association with God’s given Son they cease to be a part of this world of people.
God knew that there were lovable persons, or persons who could become lovable, in this world of people. He, with his discerning eyes, knew that there were individuals who by birth were a part of this world of people but who were really not in heart harmony with the “sin of the world” and who desired to get free from the condemnation that was due to the “sin of the world.” (John 1:29) Hence God did not send his Son into this world of people to pronounce a blanket condemnation of this entire world of people, an indiscriminate condemnation of every member of this world of people without first an opportunity to show how individuals felt about the world’s condemnable sin and sinfulness. So God sent his Son into the world of people, “for the world to be saved through him.”
This is not saying that all the world of people will be saved through Jesus Christ, God’s Son. It is saying that the opportunity is open for anyone and for all to be saved, without partiality to anyone. Nevertheless, the world of people becomes judged. This is the meaning of Jesus’ words later on to a crowd of Jews: “Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. And yet I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw men of all kinds to me. I have come as a light into the world, in order that everyone putting faith in me may not remain in the darkness. But if anyone hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him, for I came, not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that disregards me and does not receive my sayings has one to judge him. The word which I have spoken is what will judge him in the last day.”—John 12:31, 32, 46-48.
Not all the people of this world get saved; not all this world of people escapes judgment that results in a condemnation to destruction, even though Jesus at his first coming did not come to judge and condemn the world of people in its entirety. Why does not the whole world of people therefore get saved and escape judgment? It is because, as Jesus added, “he that exercises faith in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God. Now this is the basis for judgment, that the light has come into the world but men [not angels] have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked.” (John 3:18, 19) Consequently, the only ones of this world that do not get judged down and that get saved are those who put faith in God’s Son and come out of the world’s darkness into the light in order that their “works may be made manifest as having been worked in harmony with God.” (John 3:21) Except for these, the world of people in general get judged as unworthy of salvation.
Concluding now the discussion, we say that the “world” that God loved so much and that he sent Jesus, not to judge, but to save, is the world of people on earth as represented by those members who break away from the worldly, organized people and who exercise faith in God’s gift of his only-begotten Son and then come into union with him or into association with him, proving themselves to be worthy of God’s love through his only-begotten Son. Such faithful believers and followers are reserved for everlasting life in God’s promised new order of “new heavens and a new earth.”—2 Pet. 3:13.
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Does anyone have the 1957 Kingdom Ministry newsletters?
by peace_lily ini'm looking for an article from one of the 1957 kingdom ministry newsletters.
i'm sorry idk the month, but the title was something like "which world did god so love?
" i heard don nelson refer to it in his testimony, and i've been wanting to read it.. i don't want to put anyone out, but if anyone has it in pdf, a copy/paste of that article would be much appreciated..
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itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat
I went through each page of the 1957 KM and no such question was considered, that I could see?? This sound like a "question from readers" in the Watchtower Magazine or either an Awake article.