http://kristenfrihet.se/vtsvar/vtsvar1.pdf
(Thanks to Augustin for bringing this to our attention in another thread.)
C.O. Jonsson's response to Watchtower's latest 607 articles
by wannabefree 73 Replies latest watchtower bible
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BluesBrother
Absolutely brilliant, and surprisingly readable!
Definitely one to come back to.
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Cadellin
Wow. Thank you so much for posting this. This is fascinating and easy to follow. This is a must-read.
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yesidid
bu ump piddy bump
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cedars
Thanks for bumping. C.O. Jonsson is something of a hero of mine after reading about his treatise in Crisis of Conscience.
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thetrueone
The recent WTS. article tries to uphold its doctrinal dates because to admit now that they made a mistake would jeopardize
their long positioned standing that god had chosen them as his earthly mouth piece.
70 years taken away from 539 BCE, the date of the Israelites were released from captivity, even ends up at 609 BCE.
The WTS doesn't want anybody stepping on their expressed bullshit, there is now is too much to lose to tell the obvious " Truth "
As long as they stick to their guns and they have a bunch brainwashed drones who believe in them and who are subservient to them
the bullshit gets protected and sustained.
Thats religion folks good old fashion bullshit presented with a loving smile.
As I've mentioned before many times the dates derived and calculated by the WTS. were derived out of commercial necessity and
appeal to the public .
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jonathan dough
Vindicated. Jonsson likewise agrees that the JWs' Return Theory, that the 70 years ended in 537, is patently false. He also correctly observes that the 70 years most likely began in 609 at the fall of Assyria, the Dominant Babylonian Empire Theory.
http://144000.110mb.com/607/i-3.html#G
He also subscribes to the theory that there was no king of Babylon to serve once Babylon fell in 539. JWs don't have 70 years and 1914 is a false date and false prophecy and their entire religion unravels. Christ did not return in 1914, the parousia has not yet begun. That is heresy. Smart man, that Jonsson.
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wannabefree
Here is a link to page that hosts the link that is provided above ... lots of information, the link to the current document is at the bottom of the page.
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thetrueone
Seems that the WTS has avoided the actual date of the destruction of the temple and governorship of Israel in 586 BCE.
Instead they try in focus on the start of captivity fiddling and loosely speculating on when the 70 years started and ended.
If Cyrus's degree was set out in the spring of 538 BCE, it was most likely that the held Isrealite captives returned in that year.
Again 70 years taken away from 538 BCE comes to 608 BCE.
I wouldn't be surprised that this 70 year prophecy was told after the fact and being that 7 is a sacred number to this particular ancient Scotti,
70 years was written to make it all seem like it was orchestrated by gods controlling hand.