This place is what it is...a Board - anyone can be anyone, so tread carefully - remember
ALL IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS
hy guys the other day my wife had a discussion with her jws brother and he told her that he received all posted material from this site posted by myself and was disgusted with the information.
now that's all fine by me but what i am pissed about is that some one in here from sydney australia is a mole and pretends to be an ex jws while all the while exposing each and every one he knows as in my case.
you are one big coward and one who hides behind a skirt a yellow and a chicken shit whom doesn't have the balls to face me in person because you obviously know who i am.
This place is what it is...a Board - anyone can be anyone, so tread carefully - remember
ALL IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS
so after the memorial hell http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/249700/1/memorial-hell my wife totally missed the special talk and i only just realized from jwn that she has.
in fact last sunday i took her out to a park and we had nice time in the fresh air enjoying nature.
also she has taken up improving her congnitive skills on luminosity and today said she might actaully go and study some algebra on khan academy which i had suggested instead of spending money on luminosity.
Self Esteem is a product of our upbringing. If she has issues with that - a social worker can help her with that. unfortunately the WTBTS keeps you in that "low self worth" position by saying we are NEVER worthy to think for ourselves. Education - good step forward, but hold back on the deep thoughts about what YOU KNOW, the time is not right Sounds like she is moving in the right direction...let her keep rolling herself forward, DONT PUSH HER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
This is a beautiful thing, brought tears to my eyes
Well Done!
they keep pretending to be my friend, and then i get word that they actually hate me.
they have even slandered and said i not worthy to talk to.
then of course, there are the rumours... needless to say, i am pretty depressed..
I agree with the above IF THEY WERE FRIENDS, they would n't do that to you .
"Through Thick or Thin"
i have an aquaintance that likes to say, "once an a hole always an a hole".
i guess you could reason that whatever your religious views were, your core is you are who you are.. did your personality change for better or worse when you left the organization?.
Nope, I am the still very happy, gentle fellow I have always been.
I would let the WT EVER change that.
i marked down "research" next to this paragraph w13 1/15 p.11 par.
17), and have yet to do so fully.. "modern christians held in nazi concentration camps with possible death facing them were given repeated opportunities to gain their freedom by signing a declaration renouncing jehovah.".
was the declaration to renounce jehovah?
SBF -
You comment - "Detlef Garbe came up with the 1,200 figure. I don't think there are centralised records on who the Nazis killed, JWs or otherwise. That's why it's impossible to be precise about the numbers killed."
There are "Centralised records" - while very close to the number researched by the DC Holocaust Musuem - their researchers do a great job and provide much details (of which I Was not even apprised) is not far off. You may feel free to contact them to support this comment.
However, one must be careful not to believe ALL we read in books.
Something most people are not aware - Detlef Garbe's "TRANSLATED ENGLISH version "Between Resistance & Martydom" from 2008 varies in details and comments from the First original in German.
That could be attributed to many reasons we will never know-
One thing that stands out, and we know for a FACT - and makes any critical thinking person take note, is that on the page prior to the "preface pages" on page "xi" under the title - Translator's Note - the Translator, Dagmar G. Grimm - makes some astonishing claims and thank you's that make one wonder how "subjective" could this English Translation be and makes you ask why the changes occured from the original text.
Funny, i wonder if people ask the same question of the Bible and NWT?
I won't go any farther, but based on personal experience, I have be careful before I take for granted numbers, details and opinions of those who were not there and only relying on the interpretation of others.
Liberties are always taken with quotes and comments, but the original thread Question stands as accurate - it's all for a manipulation -
There was MUCH manipulation on behalf of the WTBTS with regards to how they want information viewed at the Holocaust Musuem, one has to just go there to see it.
Come to DC and I will meet you for a cup of Tea!
i marked down "research" next to this paragraph w13 1/15 p.11 par.
17), and have yet to do so fully.. "modern christians held in nazi concentration camps with possible death facing them were given repeated opportunities to gain their freedom by signing a declaration renouncing jehovah.".
was the declaration to renounce jehovah?
My parents were BOTH holocaust survivors, I went to DC and had an eye opening visit/talk with the head Historian, Peter Black
THEY (Holocaust Musuem) HAVE THE RECORDS, ALL OF it - less than 1,000 JW's were killed in the Camps, it's all been blown out of proportion,
well, i finally found him on facebook!.
his name is tollie padgett.
he was my congregation overseer (before the "elder" changeover) when i was in prison in seagoville in the late 60's.. i've been searching for him for years and years.
Ask him if he'd wanna meet you for Lunch - do the face to face thing
i know some here have said they pretty much hated the elders.
did you personally feel the elders were abusive men?.
NOPE - they are mere mortal men, even wilst "in" I did not let them control me in any manner
WTBTS - that's a different story