This is a serious point, as the rider that says that lying is only wrong when it's done to those entitled to the truth (which is a long held corruption of the dictionary definition - see the Insight Book section on the subject) means for example that the statements made by Geoffry Jackson to the RAC that directly conflict with stated policy can be dismissed under this definition. He said that a witness who decided to leave and start celebrating Christmas would not be pursued, and this is directly contradicted in the Shepeharding book. He said that he agreed that the commissions work was not an attack by apostates, and yet that is exactly what is said internally. I could go on. As I've said before, for reasons that seem more tenuous by the day, I'm still serving as an elder, but the way the organisation simple re-defines common words (see generation) is just wrong.......
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"Theocratic Warfare" still alive and well within Watchtower in 2016!
by ILoveTTATT2 init seems like the watchtower is still encouraging "theocratic warfare".
in the no.1 watchtower of 2016, they (ironically) printed an article on honesty.here is something they said:"lyingwhat is it?
saying something false to someone who is entitledto know the truth.
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CoBE Joins those Elders Deserting the Sinking Ship
by The Searcher infrom a reliable source:.
a young cobe - late thirties, maybe forty - has resigned in december 2015, both as the cobe and as an elder.
word is that he is a man with a young family who is stressed out and has had enough.
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Missed the Meeting
by konceptual99 inso yesterday was a lovely day where i live and so instead of going to the meeting we went, as a family, out for the late pm/early evening to have a bbq.
we were far more relaxed than if we had gone to the meeting.
we spent far more time talking that if we had gone to the meeting.
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Indeed however since you are new here you probably don't know that I am on a long fade and working to get my family out with wrecking every family relationship that we have. You cannot force people to see the reality about the WTS so this is the path I am taking.
Hi Konceptual99 - my situation is very similar to yours reading your account - although I'm still serving as an elder.. so a bit behind you in your journey. I wondered how things were going, becoming conscious personally is one thing, but I see no movement in that direction from my wife, or indeed the kids.. with all my family "in" I feel the stakes are too high to make a clean break.. all ideas welcome!
Cheers
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Coordinator of Elders Problems in One Southern England Circuit!
by The Searcher ininformation just passed to me.
let's hope this becomes even more widespread.
i wonder if the britain branch suspects a conspiracy?
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JWsurvey Scoop of Annual Meeting...No more TMS?? Further Magazine Reduction
by LostGeneration inwow a lot here, hell of a scoop by cedars if true.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/theocratic-ministry-school-gone-as-2015-annual-meeting-announcements-leaked-in-advance.
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@sir82, nothing ever really surprises me anymore, but I've read the letter again a few times, and while it's good, really good, it's not right in the zone..... So I'm still going with hoax... :) -
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JWsurvey Scoop of Annual Meeting...No more TMS?? Further Magazine Reduction
by LostGeneration inwow a lot here, hell of a scoop by cedars if true.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/theocratic-ministry-school-gone-as-2015-annual-meeting-announcements-leaked-in-advance.
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JWsurvey Scoop of Annual Meeting...No more TMS?? Further Magazine Reduction
by LostGeneration inwow a lot here, hell of a scoop by cedars if true.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/theocratic-ministry-school-gone-as-2015-annual-meeting-announcements-leaked-in-advance.
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I am a serving elder, and this letter has not been sent to the Jw.org inbox. I think this is a very well written hoax, by someone who has mastered the language and syntax used in society letters. It's clever, I'll say that. I'd say it's an experiment to see how many R&F are whispering about all this is advance of the AGM..... Of course I might be wrong..... -
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by bigmac ini'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
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I'm mainly a lurker here, but a serving elder somewhere between Southampton and Bournemouth......
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by bigmac ini'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
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Dorset No.1 circuit ...... Anyone else from this manor?
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I'm posting here an informative email from STEVEN UNTHANK
by AndersonsInfo inyesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.
the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.
i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .
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Steven Unthank just comes across as a prize nut job. He does the cause no good whatsoever......