Posts by krismalone

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Update: My current situation

by Issa in

it's been about two months since i stopped attending meetings, came to the conclusion that the org is not the truth, and i'm currently dealing with some problems since leaving the org.

i want to discuss these problems and hopefully get helpful advice.. discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort - fred rogers.

my current situation in this: i faded and hold off on writing a disassociation letter.

Actually by fading and becoming inactive, you irritate them more as technically you're still a JW albeit inactive. They cannot label you as an apostate. You can have your cake and eat it too. You can appear once every blue moon for political/family reasons and they will feel the pressure to at least acknowledge you when you say hi to them.

By DA yourself, you are no longer a concern to them and they now can label you as a mentally diseased apostate that refuses to worship the Governing Body due to pride.

If anyone asks why no more service or meetings for you....tell them you had an epiphany when the Watchtower magazine stated the GB are not inspired. Tell them you realized that you should be reading the bible as its inspired instead of publications that are not. Tell them you feel guilty for placing the Watchtower organization above the bible and Jesus and you have asked for forgiveness. You are using their own words against them and shouldn't get in trouble.

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Repository for JW "experiences" with Hurricane Harvey

by sir82 in

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it's only a matter of time of course..... jw rumor mills will start up soon, with stories of how jws were "first on the scene" as the flood waters receded..... how the red cross and/or us national guard and/or doctors without borders and/or [you name it] were marveling at just how "organized" the jws are..... how zealous jws were pulling their trolleys thru ankle-deep water to "offer comfort" to victims, by giving them - sandwiches?

bottled water?

to offer them comfort by giving them 16 page "magazines" to read in their spare time..... so as the stories start to come in, you can "deposit" those little nuggets of bs here.. once collected, we'll wrap them in a pretty bow and flush them away where other instances of pure manure go..

krismalone

The problem with Watchtower doing "relief" work and claiming to be a charity is that they are profiting big time! At the same time they blow their horns to the whole world that they are showing true love and compassion. The reality is they should be upfront with everyone and let them know they are there to make a profit and promote the worship of the 7 lords in Warwick. They pay no labor, no taxes, no food or shelter for their volunteers. On top of that they keep the insurance check proceeds.

Not even the mafia are as clever and deceitful as the Watchtower!

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Will YOU Ever Leave The Watchtower Org.?

by minimus in

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there is usually a metamorphosis that takes place for a person to leave the jehovah's witness religion.

most people do not just up and go simply because they realize this could not be the truth.

it often takes time.. for those that go to meetings or engage in the ministry, will you forever continue doing these things, knowing that it is all bs?

krismalone

I would leave in a new York second if I wouldn't be shunned by my family and lose my marriage. Those bastards know how to keep you in the cult by emotional blackmail.

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JW.ORG logica: I don't get it

by Gorbatchov in

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a dutch saying is "am i that smart or are you so stupid".. watching this jw.org movie about god's name made me use it: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtimafdp7m.

jw broadcasting june 2015, 15 seconds cut.. geoffrey jackson is proud that jw.org is using god's name.. then he convinced that jw.org does not know exactly what god's name is.. then he convinced that jw.org uses the name jehovah because it's most common recognized in english.. is this reasonable, asks geoffrey... yes!

krismalone

So calling your biological father by his first name is not weird but shows how much love you have for him.

If calling god by his name is so important, why did he allow it to become unknown? Why not protect the proper pronunciation?

YHWH

Adonai Elohim

Raymundus Martini (a Catholic monk 13th century) took the letter "a" from adonai and the "e" from elohim and inserted it in the tetragrammatron where you get YAHWEH which transliterated to English gives you Jehovah. This however was only a guess as god does not communicate with anyone. This means humans have to use their imagination to come up with beliefs about god(s)

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WTBTS of Britain - in the deepest of holes!

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

the britain branch of jw’s has been afforded significant but involuntary exposure in the media recently.

this is principally because of the investigation of the charities commission in a congregation in the suburbs of manchester as well as an investigation into the britain branch of jw’s itself.

if a job is being done well, it normally withstands scrutiny.

krismalone

Thanks for the video. The pedophile Paradise needs to be exposed.

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Rookie exJW Question

by Phoebe in

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i was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.

every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.

i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.

krismalone

The Governing Body claims it hides nothing. It is not a secretive organization. Unfortunately the internet has exposed their lies and deceit.

Any JW that is truly humble, hungry & honest (3 h's) will see the hypocrisy and deceit of the Governing Body.

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

krismalone

Faithful men in the Bible practiced:

ADULTERY- Concubines anyone? This is having a mistress today. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and many exemplary o.t. men had more than 1 woman. Oh....I forgot....god changed his standards for the new testament. Taking a MARRIED woman is adultery but not having sex with an unmarried woman. Even the Insight book under adultery and fornication admits that the meaning changed. Today, if a married man has sex with an unmarried woman, he is considered an adulterer although that was not the case in the O.T.

FORNICATION- The o.t. does NOT condemn premarital sex. In the O.T.fornication included bestiality, incest, homosexuality, but NEVER pre-marital sex. The meaning changed over time to include premarital sex. If a married woman was accused by her "husband owner" that she was not a virgin, she was killed. Why no punishment for the man she lost her virginity to? Why no condemnation for Judah for having sex with his widowed daughter in law whom he thought was a prostitute? Why no punishment for Abraham for having sex with the housekeeper after Madam Sara pimped him out? If any of this happened today, they would be considered depraved immoral perverts.

MURDER- O.T. faithful men were murderers. David even cut off the genitals of over 100 men and gave these to King Saul to purchase an extra wife to add to his collection. Samuel killed the king of the Amalekites. Samson another murderer. Oh how things change from the O.T. and the New Testament. Word of an infallible, never changing god?

SLAVERY OWNER- The O.T. allowed you to have slaves for life (unless an Israelite) you could even beat him up and if he didn't die within 3 days, you were off the hook. If you had a male slave and you allowed him to breed with a female slave and had little slaves, you can offer him freedom but his family would be your property forever. The concept of sin in the bible is bullshit!

So when watchtower says you must confess your sins or be destroyed, that is a load of bullshit considering what "god" allowed his faithful servants to do with his approval in the past.

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Convention In The News "...all questions regarding Jehovah's Witnesses are welcome"

by pale.emperor in

http://www.wday.com/news/4291635-thousands-plan-gather-jehovahs-witness-dont-give-convention.

this weekend thousands of people are gathering at the scheels arena in celebration of their faith.. jehovah's witnesses from around the world are assembling for the "don't give up" convention.. .

the morning starts with a music presentation and then continues on through the day with prayer, song, and speeches.. the theme centers around supporting each other and including everyone in the good will.. everyone is invited and all questions regarding jehovah's witnesses are welcome.. really?

krismalone

Really? Any questions are allowed?

01. Was C.T. Russel guided by the holy spirit when he predicted the end for 1914 and then changed it to 1915?

02. Was C.T. R. Guided by Gods spirit when he taught phrenology and pyramidology?

03. Why did C.T.R. abandon Nelson Barbour over doctrinal dispute, yet no JW today is allowed to do the same as they will be called apostates and mentally diseased and running ahead of Gods chariot?

04. Why was Rutherford allowed to proclaim himself as a "Judge" and advertised as "Judge" Rutherford if JW's tell everyone that they don't accept titles like Reverend or Father? BTW Rutherford was never an official Judge so why did he lie and no one stopped him?

05. Did God guide Rutherford to predict the end of the world for 1918, 1925 & 1941? If not, where did he get those ideas from?

06. Did the WT refund the money donated by their followers for building a mansion in San Diego for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and others? Why on earth would these prophets want to live in San Diego?

07. If JW's are not a cult, why are JW's obligated to accept without question whatever the GB says is truth even though it may change in a couple of weeks?

08. Why is there no mention of the Douglas Walsh 1954 trial where H.D. Covington admits that the Unity of the WT organization is "unity at all cost" even if it means accepting false doctrine? (See transcript) Any JW refusing to accept what the GB says will be df.

09. The brochure "face the facts" Rutherford predicted that Italy, Japan & Germany would win WW2 and conquer America and its allies. Why didn't this come true if Gods spirit directs the Orgnization?

10. How can the GB demand blind obedience from the followers when they have over 130 yrs of false prophecies?

11. Doesn't Deuteronomy 18:20-22 mean anything to JW's?

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Is it true? John Denver asks any Witnesses to leave his concert!

by Witness 007 in

version 1. john denver at his concert asks "if there are any jehovah's witnesses in the audience can you please leave.".

version 2. on the johnny carson show he said the same before singing a patriotic song.

johnny carson told denver "see that cameraman there..and that lighting guy...there jehovahs witnesses, alot of witnesses work for me because their honest people..so now you can leave.".

krismalone

Yes it is true! John Denver being kicked out of the Johnny Carson show.

I clearly remember the night I saw that episode. It was the same night that a smurf starting walking out of the Kingdom Hall and cussing.

On his way out of the Kingdom Hall, a pioneer sister tried to stop the smurf to place a magazine and count her time. When he flipped her off, the pioneer sister said she wasn't afraid as she was the same person that knocked on the door of a serial killer and he didn't harm her because she had 2 angels protecting her. Since this smurf was causing a disruption of the meeting, an elder approached the talking, walking smurf leaving the kingdom hall and offered him a bible study. This elder told the smurf that JW's have the truth because the gameshow Jeopardy had a question about who is the smartest man on earth an the answer was Fred Franz. The same elder also told him about another episode of jeopardy where the question was what is the best bible translation on earth? And the answer was of course the New World Translation. Upon seeing that the smurf didn't want to stay for the rest of the meeting, the elder made an announcement that the smurf is no longer allowed to enter the KH for being mentally diseased and anyone seeing those cartoons will be df.

Everyone lived happily ever after except the smurf of course for rejecting the truth.

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Is 1975 explicitly written in old publications ?

by SlappySlap in

i've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.. do somebody have references ?.

krismalone

Sorry for the duplicate posts. How can I erase the repeated uploads?