The brochure "Face the Facts" p.27
The spirit directed Watchtower leaders prophesied that the Axis of evil (Germany, Japan & Italy) would win ww2. They also stated that Armageddon was right about to begin.
krismalone
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Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?
by TD init's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.
this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .
the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .
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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)
by yalbmert99 inhi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
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krismalone
Rattigan 350,
You ask why the Watchtower is responsible for child abuse?
We all agree that it's the parents main responsibility to protect their children. However:
01.) How are the parents suppose to protect their children if they are not warned by the elders when there's a child molester in their midst?
02.) How is the Congregation and the community safe when the victims are told they will bring reproach on the Organization if they report the abuser?
03.) The members are constantly told that they are in a spiritual paradise and that ALL elders and Servants are appointed by Holy Spirit and thus we should trust and obey them? This makes the children vulnerable to child molesters that hold privileges.
04.) The Governing Body instructs elders not to cooperate with search warrants and subpoenas for information the elders have about child molesters. They use the "Ecclesiastical Privilege" when convenient to avoid turning in information elders have about a child molester.
05.) The Governing Body instructs elders to call the legal department FIRST instead of calling the police. This is gross negligence!
06.) Elders only report if it's mandatory according to the May 2019 study article. Why didn't they report Gonzalo Campos in California? Why didn't they report Stephanie Fessler abuser in Pennsylvania? How about the latest case in Montana where they lost a 35 million dollar lawsuit? All those states have mandatory reporting yet they didn't report it!!
07.) The Governing Body appoints elders and Servants that have abused children in the past IF THEY HID THEIR SIN FROM THE PUBLIC!
The Watchtower Organization receives benefits from the government's such as tax exemption in exchange to serve the community and make the communitu a better place. By discouraging victims to report, by ordering the elders to call the legal department first instead of the authorities, by keeping child abusers secret from the community and the Congregation and by refusing to cooperate with subpoenas and search warrants......The Governing Body have become complicit and sharers in the crime of Child abuse.
The community is not safe when the Watchtower sends pedophiles to people's doors where children are exposed. The families and children are not informed when a pedophile is in the Congregation.
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Netherlands branch raided by police for pedophile records
by krismalone inhttps://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/12/police-raid-jehovahs-witness-buildings-in-sexual-abuse-inquiries/
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Watchtower to pay $34M to abuse victim in Montana...jury verdict just in
by krismalone inas we already heard the good news today, another verdict this time in montana, against the watchtower for covering up child sexual molestation.
the bad coverage and lawsuits hit the fan in 2002 with dateline.
before that, the policies that protect pedophiles was pretty much unknown (except for insiders).
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krismalone
As we already heard the good news today, another verdict this time in Montana, against the Watchtower for covering up child sexual molestation. The bad coverage and lawsuits hit the fan in 2002 with Dateline. Before that, the policies that protect pedophiles was pretty much unknown (except for insiders).
This begs the question...Will the Governing Body ever learn that they cannot keep these type of crimes from authorities? How many lawsuits and negative media coverage will it take to have them change their policies on how they handle child molestation?
Just one simple letter to the elders will stop the bleeding, something that says:
"Dear Brothers,
We have received new light. From now on we will obey the laws of the land and no longer will we protect pedophiles from authorities (Romans 13:1). When ever you receive a report of molestation, call the police FIRST and cooperate with them by providing them any information you may have to help the authorities get the accurate and complete information they need. This includes any confession the abuser made to you and access to the Congregation judicial commitee files. No longer will you need to lie in court about not knowing crimes committed by members. No longer will you refuse to cooperate with a search warranty for files or to appear in court to testify. Moreover, from now on you will allow the trained detectives, forensics team and psychologist handle these type of matters as it is beyond your skills of expertise. Protecting the innocent children from sexual abuse is our priority even before protecting the image of the Organization (Matthew 23:23)."
Your Brothers
Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
PS: To the Governing Body, you have my full permission to use the exact words in this letter I drew up myself using common sense and a semi-decent conscience. Oh and you're welcome for me saving you guys of future exposure, humiliation and most important to you....Millions of dollars in future lawsuits.
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Has God preserved His word today?
by JW Answers inhas god preserved his word today?
many people attack, doubt and fault god's word.
yet god has made several promises in his word.he promised to preserve his word unto every generation,he promised that every word would be truth,he promised that we can rely and depend on his every word.satan wants nothing more than to dismiss, and cast doubt on god's word... so the question today is... do we have god's preserved word today?
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krismalone
What word are you referring to?
The book of Mormon? The Koran? The Catholic bible? The Protestant bible? The Ethiopian canon?
If God preserved his word, why is there no concrete way of knowing which canon is the correct one? Why aren't any "originals" in existence? Why are the oldest manuscripts from the 4th century (Sinaitic and Vatican) and yet even those differ from each other?
Even the Watchtower admits (albeit indirectly)that the bible is not trustworthy or free from error as they have made changes to passages such as :
John 7:53-8:11;
Mark 16: 9-till end of chap.
1 John 5:7,
John 1:1;
Hebrews 1:6 and many others.
"God" hasn't been able to produce a book free from errors, spurious passages, and not even a clear canon to believe in. God wasn't able to protect his word from errors and contamination. This speaks volumes about god's interest in humans to be saved and to be known by him.
Religion was invented for people who cannot accept the fact that we are alone in the universe and refuse to accept that we will someday return to inexistence.
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Humans only survive for 3-5 days without water...
by purrpurr inand yet today's watchtower and indeed the bible condemns the israelites for moaning about having no water!
it's never occurred to me how unjust this is!
and how could a so called loving god not provide a basic human need?!.
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krismalone
The old testament God sure likes to play games with his human worshippers. He likes to torture them physically and psychologically.
* He places a forbidden tree in eden to see if they love him. When they eat the red juicy apple, all hell breaks loose.
* All descendants from the first couple are cursed to die because mommy and daddy ate a juicy red apple.
* Women are cursed to be in submission to their husbands and are to feel intense pain when giving birth.
* He asks Abraham to kill his son to see if he loves him.
* He orders the killing of nations that worship foreign gods. How is that their fault? He chose the Israelites and not other nations so how are they deserving of genocide?
* He orders the kidnapping and rape of virgins (Deut chaps 20-22).
These examples are the tip of the iceberg.
The OT God is comparable to abusive father who doesn't allow his kids to give their opinion and who beats the s**t out of them for not obeying his abusive, inhumane request and for daring to think for themselves. All human rights and dignity are denied to those in his household. The Watchtower Corporation has mirrored that same mentality on its members.
The law is the only thing stopping the Watchtower from directly executing those who don't obey them and question their authority.
Granted this God of the OT is a product of imagination and thank goodness he doesn't exist. The NT God (Jesus) is the Polar opposite of the latter. Too bad never existed as well.
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Anybody here still believe in the bible?
by Mel Morris ini'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
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krismalone
Just the first 3 chapters of the bible are enough to convince anyone that cares about evidence and truth if it's trustworthy or not.
Chapters 1 & 2 contradict each other in the order of creation.
Chapter 3 has a talking snake that is told to eat dust and a loving God who has to test his children by having a forbidden tree.
It's no wonder why strong faith is necessary to believe in this book.
The rest of the bible is even worst as God approves of hate, murder, genocide, kidnapping girls, rape, incest, blessing adultery, lying.......it's worst than a rated R movie.
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Lies! Since the Watchtower knows how to lie, they can give expert advice on it.
by days of future passed instudy article for october: speaking the truth.
the article is about lying, but the wt is all about lying.
i guess they are concerned with their followers lying to them!.
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krismalone
Well at least Geoffrey Jackson didn't lie when asked if the Governing Body considers themselves gods only channel of truth. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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JWs and Guns.
by blownaway ini was told shooting guns and collecting them was not something a jw should do.
when i lived way up north us it was more of a deer hunting group and so some guns were ok, when i moved to florida it was different.
most people in the hall were not hunters.
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krismalone
Since the governing body does not allow privileges or consider a JW as an example if he has a gun, then if a JW with privileges is getting assaulted or sees his wife and children getting raped it's also hypocritical to call the police as they will arrive with a gun and they will use it if necessary to protect the victim.
What would this JW that is calling the police say or think if the police were to tell him "you know what, we will arrive however, we will leave our guns in the police station as you are a JW and you do not believe in carrying guns for self-defense. We will kindly ask the rapist and murderer to stop stabbing you and raping your children and we will hope for the best and pray to your God since he will always protect you as your governing body says he will".
If that were to happen, there would be a serious lawsuit against the police for dereliction of Duty. However nothing would happen to the governing body because of their policy.
The watchtowers policy on guns is just one of many contradictory, arbitrary, man-made, ridiculous & dangerous policies that they have.
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JW Nut Telling His Story Online
by pale.emperor inwhile searching for some jw related stuff online, i stumbled across this page created by a pimi.
his name is steve mcdowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.
however, this version, he says, is the full version.
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krismalone
I read somewhere in his blog where he had a heart attack in the United States while visiting to give the memorial talk. He brags about the fact that the society never had to pay a dime for his expensive surgery but the hospital and taxpayers picked up the bill. I feel that is fraud and it should be reported that he is an agent of the Watchtower Corporation and they must reimburse the hospital for his operation.
This JW delusional drone, is a missionary graduated from Gilead And serving in Panama Central America. This means he's an agent of the Watchtower Corporation and they should take care of all his medical expenses instead of hard-working us taxpayers.