"Out of the cocoon" is an excellent read. I forgot the authors name, but she wrote a very candid account of how it was like being raised by a JW mother that was a heavy kool aid drinker. Very touching life story. I highly recommend!
krismalone
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book advice about the 'jw experience'
by cobweb ini'm looking for a book recommendation about the jw experience for the audience of a non-jw friend.. here is a scenario: you have recently left the jw religion and have made a friend who has little knowledge about your old religion.
you would like them to understand more about you but at this point you feel awkward about explaining your religious background and don't feel confident that you can make them 'get it'.
you decide you would like to give them a book that will do the grunt work of explaining it all; one that will give them a deeper insight into your former world than you feel able to provide, which will additionally explain why it is that you are now in the position you are, friendless, unsure of many things and adrift at an age where most people have got their life sorted.. if someone were in this situation and needed such a book, what you recommend?.
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UK Judge says JW videos damage children
by krismalone inhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.
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info needed on Mexico Scandal regarding KH's meetings with no prayers etc - Thanks.
by WHATSGOINGON inhi .
trying to find info on the scandal involving mexican congregations not having prayers and singing at the meetings.. i have found some info on jw facts but would like more if anyone knows of a good website to look at.. watchtower observer had some info before but that website is long gone.. any help would be much appreciated.. thanks wgo..
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krismalone
Yes, the Mexican law changed and now allowed religions to own property. By coincidence new light guided the Governing Body to change their registration from cultural society to a religious society and prayers, singing and public use of the bible was in effect.
What's really upsetting is how the rank and file don't understand that it was the Governing Body who decided to sacrifice their worship of god to protect their property.
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info needed on Mexico Scandal regarding KH's meetings with no prayers etc - Thanks.
by WHATSGOINGON inhi .
trying to find info on the scandal involving mexican congregations not having prayers and singing at the meetings.. i have found some info on jw facts but would like more if anyone knows of a good website to look at.. watchtower observer had some info before but that website is long gone.. any help would be much appreciated.. thanks wgo..
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krismalone
This situation in Mexico from 1943-1989 is another chapter of hypocrisy and deceit of the Governing Body.
Contrary to popular opinion of the Mexican JW's, they were never banned. They had the right to sing, pray and use the bible publicly with the condition of being registered as a religion. The problem with that was that all religious buildings and property BELONGED TO THE GOVERNMENT. So the Governing Body was willing to sacrifice prayers, singing and using the bible publicly in service in order to keep their property. Even today many Mexican JW's don't quite understand this compromise by the Governing Body. Many believe they were being persecuted by Satan and not allowed to use the bible, sing or pray. So while the world over they were calling themselves a religion and legally registered as such, that was not the case in Mexico. Where is the so called unity they boast about?!
Another issue that becomes manifest is the willingness of the Governing Body to lie to the governments. They were registered as a cultural society or just a group of people studying secular culture but NOT A RELIGION. This shows that they are more than willing to be deceitful hypocrites and scammers to get their way. The naive, brainwashed members just go along with the lies and deceit without blinking an eye.
Meanwhile they use fear, guilt and obligation to get their members to be courageous and suffer for the truth even though they themselves don't don't do it. If an individual member stops preaching or going to the meetings to support his family financially he is called materialistic and weak spiritually. Every normal JW rank and file member is pressured to seek first the Watchtower'$ interest and make sacrifices even financially and be willing to give up your assets for the "truth", but when it comes to the Governing Body......no way in hell will they do that. And BTW, don't anyone be talking about this issue or WT will DF you and take your family and friends away. Oh another point, don't call us a cult!!
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Spiritual Welfare
by wheelwithinwheel inthis year’s “don’t give up” convention encourages theocratic welfare.
brother pioneer is doing a lot of carting and having trouble making ends meet.
his landlord doesn’t get it and decides to evict him and his wife.. .
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What shameful parasite pioneers!
If a person high on WT kool aid refuses to be responsable financially and slave for a corporation promoting their guilt, fear and obligation... Then go ahead! But once they expect others to pick up their sorry asses and pay their bills, they become shameful parasite pioneers. Let them starve!!!!!that's the only way they can realize that their decision of slaving for a corporation was bs. Yet these same ones give talks and counsel others who do work hard and support themselves responsibly.
If they obey the GB regarding not going to school, not working full time then let the GB pay their bills and feed them!
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Former CO Willis Bentley
by Rejected inis he on this board?
does anyone know the reason he left?
what denomination is his church?.
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Joe134cd,
Under what name did this former DO post here? I'm interested in reading his post.
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Want to read a surprising comment/complaint posted on my website about JW's encouraged not to have kids. Who would have thought!
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/did-you-know-having-children/#comment-474.
here's the short article found in the "did you know?
" series found on watchtower documents, and, underneath it, is the unusual comment:.
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Salvation p.325 - "Should these marry (single JWs) and have children? NO is the answer from the scriptures".
The Watchtower cannot stand it when they see people enjoying a normal life like getting married, having children, traveling, hobbies and the most evil.....having a college education.
Every second of the JW's life should be spent slaving for the Governing Body. If you dare to enjoy life, you are selfish and not deserving of eternal life under Watchtower rule.
Its ironic that the only growth in the cult is from 30% of JW children. The other 70% of JW kids want nothing to do with worshipping the Governing Body. The WT should be very thankful that many ignored their orders and decided to get married and bear children as the WT cult would be almost non existent today. Just look at Japan, where the population growth is very low. The cult is hurting there in numbers because of JWs not having kids. Older ones pass away and no one is there to replace them.
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Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions
by jambon1 inwhat is it with this pair?
why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?
a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.
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John Cedars has an excellent website and has a rational, calm, civilized demeaner when presenting his information. I have benefitted greatly from his website.
I'm disappointed that others would attack his character and his work.
A JW lurker will see these vicious attacks that ex-jws launch against each other as confirmation of what the GB says about former members....namely that we're all full of rabid hate and beligerant. This can scare them to go back to the WT cult and never again question the GB masters.
Rational, calm discussion of the facts without showing extreme beligerant emotions is most effective to opening the minds of those seeking the truth of a matter.
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Women are a "stack of bones and a hank of hair" - J.F. Rutherford
by krismalone ini have heard rumors and anecdotes of j.f.
rutherford calling women "a hank of hair and a stack of bones" but i never thought it was documented.
well thanks to jwfacts i finally found the quote in print.. this j.f.
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I have heard rumors and anecdotes of J.F. Rutherford calling women "a hank of hair and a stack of bones" but I never thought it was documented. Well thanks to jwfacts I finally found the quote in print.
This J.F. Rutherford was a despicable, hateful character. He also made racial comments about Jews. Why didn't the board of directors counsel him or remove him for such hateful speech? Why didn't the female members just walk away or leave the convention and demand an apology? Answer is simple....It's a cult and cult leaders are above the law.
C.T. Russel also made demeaning comments about blacks and how it's a waste of time to minister to them. F.W. Franz also spoke about women being "cows in heat" and looking for sex.
Many don't realize that the WT has a history of racism and sexism. It's amazing how no one needs to lie or invent some story to discredit them. They do that by themselves with their own "spiritual food at the proper time."
Their false prophecies and protection of child molesters is greatly exposed on the internet but their history of racism and degrading women needs to be exposed as well.
Watchtower 1941 Sep 15 p.287
"Why, then, should a man who has the prospect before him of being of the great multitude now tie himself up to a stack of bones and a hank of hair?" (Applause)" This was a quote from J,F, Rutherford in a convention talk.Vindication I (1931) pp.156-157
"The women make monkeys or dupes of men. The men have become effeminate, soft and easily influenced, and have lost their real manhood and sturdiness in the affairs of state and home. For instance, when men are sitting at a table and a woman approaches, all the men arise and pay her homage and thereby elevate her to a place above men. The men remove their hats upon entering an elevator, if a woman is present; and these things are said to be acts of respect and to show that a man is a gentleman. But it is subtle, and the real meaning is much different from that. It is a scheme of Satan to turn men away from God and from his announced rule of the proper position of man and woman. The Lord has declared that no effeminate man shall inherit the kingdom of heaven. (1 Cor. 6:9) This proves that the scheme or habit of paying homage to women is not of God, but from the great enemy of God. It is a veneer of being a proper thing, and therefore it is more subtle than otherwise."Golden Age 1930 Apr 2 p.446
"Whether the identity of the sexes, as such, will be preserved, we do not know. There have been some well authenticated instances in which women have been transformed into men, and it is possible that this transformation may become general and we shall all be brothers together." -
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Today's WT.... Modesty & Presumption...Missing Questions
by krismalone intoday's wt study spoke about being modest and avoid presumptuousness.
here are 7 questions that the watchtower forgot to add in the article.
questions to ask: .
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Today's WT study spoke about being modest and avoid presumptuousness.
Here are 7 questions that the Watchtower forgot to add in the article.
Questions to ask:
01. How has the GB set a good example of modesty? Answer: By giving the other sheep a chance to build their Warwick complex and peddle their books to gain salvation without pay.
02. How has the JW members shown modesty? Answer: By accepting the blame for "inflating their imaginations" regarding 1925 & 1975 and living a life of poverty, living off welfare and food stamps for rejecting higher education
03. How did C.T. Russel show modesty? Answer:By telling the world that they cannot understand the Bible without his books and calling himself the "Laodicean Messenger".
04. How did J.F. Rutherford show modesty? Answer: By advertising himself as being a "Judge" and by removing the 4 majority directors through worldy legal means instead of relying on Jehovah to fix problems like they tell all JW's seeking justice & by removing the editorial committee which was outlined in C.T. Russel's will.
05. How did Rutherford set a good example in accepting correction & counsel? Answer: By expelling and using the Watchtower magazine to demonize Canadian Branch overseer Walter Salter and WT attorney Olin Moyle for the letters they wrote him exposing the Judge's drunkenness, abuse of power, mistreatment of the Bethel family, vulgar language and his lavish lifestyle.
06. How does the current GB show that they're humble and accept correction? ANSWER: By refusing to apologize to the victims of child abuse, refusing to give authorities the names of confessed abusers in their database, refusing to change the policy of calling the legal dept first instead of the police regarding molesters in their midst, preferring to use donations from hard working kids, widows & seniors to pay out of court settlements instead of changing policy.
07. How do Circuit Overseers demonstrate modesty & humility in our day? ANSWER: By having the Congregation members pay for their comfortable apartment with cable, healthcare insurance, gas card, new car, vehicle maintenance, paid vacations and green handshakes. While at the same time giving talks condemning those that work full time (those that pay for their material benefits) by using guilt trips for not pioneering and being materialistic.