Posts by krismalone

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

krismalone

Faithful men in the Bible practiced:

ADULTERY- Concubines anyone? This is having a mistress today. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and many exemplary o.t. men had more than 1 woman. Oh....I forgot....god changed his standards for the new testament. Taking a MARRIED woman is adultery but not having sex with an unmarried woman. Even the Insight book under adultery and fornication admits that the meaning changed. Today, if a married man has sex with an unmarried woman, he is considered an adulterer although that was not the case in the O.T.

FORNICATION- The o.t. does NOT condemn premarital sex. In the O.T.fornication included bestiality, incest, homosexuality, but NEVER pre-marital sex. The meaning changed over time to include premarital sex. If a married woman was accused by her "husband owner" that she was not a virgin, she was killed. Why no punishment for the man she lost her virginity to? Why no condemnation for Judah for having sex with his widowed daughter in law whom he thought was a prostitute? Why no punishment for Abraham for having sex with the housekeeper after Madam Sara pimped him out? If any of this happened today, they would be considered depraved immoral perverts.

MURDER- O.T. faithful men were murderers. David even cut off the genitals of over 100 men and gave these to King Saul to purchase an extra wife to add to his collection. Samuel killed the king of the Amalekites. Samson another murderer. Oh how things change from the O.T. and the New Testament. Word of an infallible, never changing god?

SLAVERY OWNER- The O.T. allowed you to have slaves for life (unless an Israelite) you could even beat him up and if he didn't die within 3 days, you were off the hook. If you had a male slave and you allowed him to breed with a female slave and had little slaves, you can offer him freedom but his family would be your property forever. The concept of sin in the bible is bullshit!

So when watchtower says you must confess your sins or be destroyed, that is a load of bullshit considering what "god" allowed his faithful servants to do with his approval in the past.

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Convention In The News "...all questions regarding Jehovah's Witnesses are welcome"

by pale.emperor in

http://www.wday.com/news/4291635-thousands-plan-gather-jehovahs-witness-dont-give-convention.

this weekend thousands of people are gathering at the scheels arena in celebration of their faith.. jehovah's witnesses from around the world are assembling for the "don't give up" convention.. .

the morning starts with a music presentation and then continues on through the day with prayer, song, and speeches.. the theme centers around supporting each other and including everyone in the good will.. everyone is invited and all questions regarding jehovah's witnesses are welcome.. really?

krismalone

Really? Any questions are allowed?

01. Was C.T. Russel guided by the holy spirit when he predicted the end for 1914 and then changed it to 1915?

02. Was C.T. R. Guided by Gods spirit when he taught phrenology and pyramidology?

03. Why did C.T.R. abandon Nelson Barbour over doctrinal dispute, yet no JW today is allowed to do the same as they will be called apostates and mentally diseased and running ahead of Gods chariot?

04. Why was Rutherford allowed to proclaim himself as a "Judge" and advertised as "Judge" Rutherford if JW's tell everyone that they don't accept titles like Reverend or Father? BTW Rutherford was never an official Judge so why did he lie and no one stopped him?

05. Did God guide Rutherford to predict the end of the world for 1918, 1925 & 1941? If not, where did he get those ideas from?

06. Did the WT refund the money donated by their followers for building a mansion in San Diego for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and others? Why on earth would these prophets want to live in San Diego?

07. If JW's are not a cult, why are JW's obligated to accept without question whatever the GB says is truth even though it may change in a couple of weeks?

08. Why is there no mention of the Douglas Walsh 1954 trial where H.D. Covington admits that the Unity of the WT organization is "unity at all cost" even if it means accepting false doctrine? (See transcript) Any JW refusing to accept what the GB says will be df.

09. The brochure "face the facts" Rutherford predicted that Italy, Japan & Germany would win WW2 and conquer America and its allies. Why didn't this come true if Gods spirit directs the Orgnization?

10. How can the GB demand blind obedience from the followers when they have over 130 yrs of false prophecies?

11. Doesn't Deuteronomy 18:20-22 mean anything to JW's?

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Is it true? John Denver asks any Witnesses to leave his concert!

by Witness 007 in

version 1. john denver at his concert asks "if there are any jehovah's witnesses in the audience can you please leave.".

version 2. on the johnny carson show he said the same before singing a patriotic song.

johnny carson told denver "see that cameraman there..and that lighting guy...there jehovahs witnesses, alot of witnesses work for me because their honest people..so now you can leave.".

krismalone

Yes it is true! John Denver being kicked out of the Johnny Carson show.

I clearly remember the night I saw that episode. It was the same night that a smurf starting walking out of the Kingdom Hall and cussing.

On his way out of the Kingdom Hall, a pioneer sister tried to stop the smurf to place a magazine and count her time. When he flipped her off, the pioneer sister said she wasn't afraid as she was the same person that knocked on the door of a serial killer and he didn't harm her because she had 2 angels protecting her. Since this smurf was causing a disruption of the meeting, an elder approached the talking, walking smurf leaving the kingdom hall and offered him a bible study. This elder told the smurf that JW's have the truth because the gameshow Jeopardy had a question about who is the smartest man on earth an the answer was Fred Franz. The same elder also told him about another episode of jeopardy where the question was what is the best bible translation on earth? And the answer was of course the New World Translation. Upon seeing that the smurf didn't want to stay for the rest of the meeting, the elder made an announcement that the smurf is no longer allowed to enter the KH for being mentally diseased and anyone seeing those cartoons will be df.

Everyone lived happily ever after except the smurf of course for rejecting the truth.

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Is 1975 explicitly written in old publications ?

by SlappySlap in

i've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.. do somebody have references ?.

krismalone

Sorry for the duplicate posts. How can I erase the repeated uploads?

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Is 1975 explicitly written in old publications ?

by SlappySlap in

i've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.. do somebody have references ?.

krismalone

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Is 1975 explicitly written in old publications ?

by SlappySlap in

i've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.. do somebody have references ?.

krismalone

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Is 1975 explicitly written in old publications ?

by SlappySlap in

i've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.. do somebody have references ?.

krismalone

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There is no Holy Spirit.

by hoser in

there is no holy spirit.

i lead a double life.

i post on apostate web sites, swear like a sailor, covertly subvert the watchtower religion and do many other things i'd rather not mention.

krismalone

Ewart Chitty (a closet homosexual) rises through the ranks of the WT hierarchy to the point of being a member of the Governing Body. Only after several roommates accuse him of innapropriate conduct does he get removed or forced to resign. He was eventually sent back to London branch with no responsibilities only menial tasks. Who or what appointed him? The 79 YB announces his resignation.

Leo K. Greenlees, another homosexual and child molester who rose through the WT hierarchy and became a member of the almighty GB. He molested children (Marco Paolo included). Was forced to resign from the GB and was secretly transferred to a Cong in New Orleans. Who or what appointed him? The GB did not report him to the police and just transferred him and gave him the title of special pioneer until his death. No mention at all about his removal from the GB in the publications.

The WT tells its members they must be obedient and obey the leaders as they are appointed by the Holy Spirit. This keeps members in fear of speaking out against crimes and hypocrisy of their leaders. This is just another lie from the GB to keep members obedient and enslaved to the WT organization.

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Who Is An Apostate?

by NeonMadman in

maybe you've heard the story of a brother in the watchtower's writing department who was very smart, hard working and a good writer.

we'll call him charley.

charley was so good, in fact, that he advanced through the ranks and became a co-editor of the watchtower magazine.

krismalone

Deep food for thought. Chuckee should of had "waited on Jehovah" and not "run ahead of his organization" as every JW is reminded in their publications. Also "Jehovah will take care of it in his due time", "leave it in Jehovah's hands" and "where else will you go?" These cliches apply to the average JW but not to C.T. Russell and the self proclaimed Judge who took matters in his own hands to takeover the Watchtower.

The double standards are endless.

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book advice about the 'jw experience'

by cobweb in

jw
friends

i'm looking for a book recommendation about the jw experience for the audience of a non-jw friend.. here is a scenario: you have recently left the jw religion and have made a friend who has little knowledge about your old religion.

you would like them to understand more about you but at this point you feel awkward about explaining your religious background and don't feel confident that you can make them 'get it'.

you decide you would like to give them a book that will do the grunt work of explaining it all; one that will give them a deeper insight into your former world than you feel able to provide, which will additionally explain why it is that you are now in the position you are, friendless, unsure of many things and adrift at an age where most people have got their life sorted.. if someone were in this situation and needed such a book, what you recommend?.

krismalone

"Out of the cocoon" is an excellent read. I forgot the authors name, but she wrote a very candid account of how it was like being raised by a JW mother that was a heavy kool aid drinker. Very touching life story. I highly recommend!