that's how i feel when i see these crazy new wt study articles and the inane reasoning contained therein, and the indoctrination machines of meetings run by all those little hardened human cogs and the unending stream of propaganda we're pitched up against.
.. you could spend all your time working through those wt articles (see cedar's post on the latest 'new light') and refuting the stupidity, and yet most witnesses aren't even concerned with changes to the fds or 144 000 because like all of humanity they're too busy trying to scratch a living as it is.
such airy doctrine changes don't have any effect on their day to day lives and is thus irrelevant.
This so called "new light" is going to really help those with family that is still "in." the opportunity to ask questions about this convoluted new premise is almost endless, as we have seen from Cedar's post from two days ago on the November Watchtower study edition.
Please try to be positive. Lately there have been some success stories relayed here about awakening loved ones.
http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
I have read every post on this thread and am amazed by all the brilliant minds on this site. Thanks to Cedars, the mole, and all of you who have helped me try to navigate this crazy "new light." I feel like a deer in the headlights and am sure this is going to wake up a good deal of current witnesses. Let's hope so.
With all the new light that is coming out, all the Watchtower literature on the shelves is totally obsolete. It all needs to go anyway. Best it be burned so as not to mislead another.
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from my place of forgetting, and out of my utter despair and loneliness, i tap out my pathetic message desperately hoping that there is someone, anyone that might possibly hear ... .
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Welcome my new friend. Such a gift you have! Please continue here.
That is an excellent price. I may buy one even though I have already read someone else's copy. They are good to have on hand for honest hearted ones. Thanks.
good morning and sorry this is so late being posted, it's been a busy week and this is the first chance to post.. our home phone, which only a few people know and have, has been ringing constantly for the last two weeks, and my hubby and i have been ignoring it.
my parents and the elders are the only ones that have our home phone number and my parents have been just calling my cell because they know we won't answer the house phone...anyways this has been going on for several weeks.. on saturday i get a call from my dad asking me how the asl cong works with recruiting people for their hall...i was really confused because my parents live 90 miles from the asl cong and the people in that hall are too lazy to drive that far.
so i asked him to explain.. apparently some man called asking if there was anyone in the household who knew asl to help communicate with deaf....so i can't say everything about the conversation because i don't want to reveal details.
Just remember that those mid management cult people don't have any hold on you. You owe them nothing. They are not sent by God. They are just men. No need to fear them or give them respect.
gods word for us through jeremiah page 128 '..his mother bought a ram and a ewe.
he looked after them, and the ewe produced two lambs a year, so the flock began to grow..."early one morning while i was still in bed," he recalls, "i heard them bleating.
when i finally did, i saw a pack of wild dogs running away from my lambs, which had their bellies ripped open.
Sick illustration to use when small children are in attendance. I agree with you.
black and white i know.
but what are the possiblities that the governing body can ever make a real apology?
is it really impossible?.
They will need to replace the Watchtower sign on the top of Brooklyn Bethel with a "Going Out of Business" sign if they admitted this.
i recently came across some quotes in the february 1, 1952 watchtower.
granted, that's a long time ago, but i think it illustrates the propaganda techniques the organization still uses.. "we should meekly go along with the lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than balk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave's provision of spiritual food.
theocratic ones will appreciate the lord's visible organization and not be so foolish as to pit against jehovah's channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings... after being nourished to our present spiritual health and maturity, do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?
Excellent points and excellent reasoning (on your part, not the Watchtower's). Enjoyed your commentary.
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When one is fully entrenched in the cult, they rationalize that all these sacrifices the Watchtower asks you to make are worth it because you will eventually get life everlasting in a paradise earth. You put up with this life for yourself and your kid because of that carrot they dangle in front of you.
From watching the trailers, I didn't see anything that would have persuaded me to leave while I was in. What caused me to leave was the lack of love, the self righteous attitude and all the hypocrisy.
