This letter is infuriating. It upsets me so. If self righteousness was a disfellowshipping offense, there wouldn't be a Witness in good standing to hold the meetings.
Great comeback, Terry.
their email address is: xxxxx.
and their message is:.
you probably would say, 'i didn't abandon him, i can still serve him on my own.
This letter is infuriating. It upsets me so. If self righteousness was a disfellowshipping offense, there wouldn't be a Witness in good standing to hold the meetings.
Great comeback, Terry.
most jehovah's witnesses are aware there once lived a man named russell and he had something to do with the early years of their religion.. but, generally, interest in the early days is almost non-existent.
after all, nobody was running around calling themselves jehovah's witnesses, so what difference does any of that really make?.
russell and the origins of jw doctrines are, as a result of this total black out of curiousity, hidden and permanently obscured.. in fact, the only time charles taze russell is discussed is because some expose' by an apostate has raised a stink.. admitedly, most anti-jw books seek to dredge up scandals, lawsuits, accusations and failed predictions swirling around russell's ministry.. in my own opinion, none of that is half as interesting as the missing part of the equation: where from did pastor russell get his truth?.
Yes, I will buy your book, Terry. Love your writing.
there wouldn't have been any good way to hear the news i suppose.
it's just so strange to recall the conversation yesterday.
my "still in" parents are with me and my inactive sister having a pleasant conversation.
I am sorry to hear that people are losing hope and ending their lives. Sorry you lost a friend.
Nicely done!
i am durden.. a teenager that is an unbaptized publisher and is trying to leave this damn cult !!!.
i have been lurking here for some time and i decided to start posting with this intro.. im from europe, both my parents are jw's, my parents are both teachers (math teachers).. my parents are "softcore" jw's, they accept all my questions and try to answer them.. i am trying to "convert" my dad (an elder which might complicate things), me and my dad recently had various discussions about the org ("discussions" on the good sense of the word).. we talked about jehovah in the nt, 1975, 1914, gb in 1st century, the cross, "new lights" ..., you know the usual stuff.. and all is going well i think, i think i can "convert" him until the end of summer.. i mean is a logical man, what can go wrong ?
man, when i found jwfacts it was like my world had collapsed, all thoses lies .... but its good now to have found the truth.
Welcome to the group.
Sounds like you are doing a good job with your dad already. Just keep asking questions.
How about Mum?
i have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .
i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.
even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.
I am so glad you did the right thing. Those elders are would be murderers.
any of you that have served on judicial committees pertaining to pedophiles or their victims.
i've recently been given permission by a friend who works at abc news to give his email address to any of you who have either served on jc cases or victims who were involved with jc's.
i gave him my story over the phone.
We have a friend who is a victim. I will contact her.
this is my opinion, i don't have official quotes or official instructions to back this up.
what i have is real life experience of having been an elder that was involved in investigating an allegation of child abuse, why we didn't report, why we didn't encourage the parents to report.. its simple really, the main reason elders don't report is concern that they may lose their position in the congregation.
if you in any way "run ahead" of the society, you will be perceived as proud and arrogant and will be deleted!
Only today one of our friends who is an exJW child abuse victim told us she is being shunned by lifelong friends because they do not believe that she was molested by a brother in the Kingdom Hall and the elders knew and didn't do anything about it.
When you are in, you think you are in a "spiritual paradise" and you naturally reject anything and anyone that spoils that view.
i thought i would share this fb message from someone who considers himself to be a "true" friend of mine.
after learning from my former husband tha i am disfellowshipped, he writes the following: .
fb true friend: "xxxxx with tears in my eyes i will be deleting you but i want you as my sister again.
When I was in my best friend got df'd. We went out to dinner and a movie together right before the announcement and she told me. I didn't see her or talk to her until she got reinstated. That was what I thought was the right thing to do for her "eternal salvation.' I supported the shunning while I was in and felt it was an act of unselfish love.
The part about this facebook conversation that I find so offensive is that the name of Jehovah and Satan is not spelled out. This is so trashing and immature. This is supposed to make you think. It is demeaning and degrading.
I am sorry the elders got their hooks into you. Hope we can help in some small way, friend.
hope all if you are well.
just a couple if updates i don't post much, but i constantly read.
i am now disfellowshipped and i am seperated from my wife and rebuilding from the bottom.
I have been in sales all my life and I certainly learned a lot about selling from the auditorium of the Kingdom Hall. Sales can be a numbers game, the more people you contact, the more chances to sell.