I have said this before, but my tipping point was the change in the baptism vows along with the sealing of the 144,000 in 1939 and the reopening of the anointed class in 2007. These two things really bothered me and stuck out amongst all the other nonsense somehow.
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Ethos (and all still mentally in): Truth, Tipping Points and Standards
by NeverKnew inif this is "the truth," why has the information provided over the years contained so many errors?
at what point does "error" become "outright lie" for you?
how high (or low) are your standards for your spiritual leaders?
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AUSTRALIA - Prime Minister Gillard has just announced a National Royal Commission into Child Abuse within Religions
by jwleaks inaustralia's prime minister julia gillard has announced a national royal commission into child abuse within religions and religious charities (not-for-profit sector).
julia gillard announces royal commission will probe child sex abuse.
royal commission to probe child abuse.
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Wish they would do this in the USA.
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A milestone for my Grandson, David
by coffee_black indavid turned 18 yesterday.
(he is the one who walked from orlando, fl to washington, dc a little over 3 years ago on behalf of homeless children) i wrote about that on the forum back then.
what i didn't write about is that david has grown up without a father....not because he doesn't exist, but because his father has chosen to live his life of drugs and violence.
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whathappened
It sounds like this young man has it together. He has had to grow up fast, but that is not necessarily bad. With your love and emotional support, he will have all he needs to embark on a bright, prosperous future.
It is good to hear good things for a change. Give your grandson a big hug from all of us.
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Can you think of ONE teaching of Jehovah Witnesses that hasn't changed since the religion started?
by Unbrainwashed publisher1 inwhith this recent fds and gb debacle i cant think of one teaching that they have not altered since this org began?.
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Hope of life on a paradise earth, which was stolen from the Adventists.
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what an evening
by wha happened? injust got out of bed.. i've been feeling a bit flu like since thursday.
no big deal.
yesterday it kicks in full gear.
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Don't tell any active jw's about this. They will say the odd illness is a sign that we are living in the last days.
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My experience......from East Africa
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its a long read.sorry.
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whathappened
Welcome to this forum. I look forward to your input.
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"Truth Be Told" - the movie...
by ziddina inwell, i had the rare opportunity to see this movie tonight, and i would highly recommed it for all ex-jehovah's witnesses!!!.
the documentary film basically consisted of a series of interviews with ex-jehovah's witnesses.. instead of having one interview with the first person, then proceedeing on to the next one, however, mr. smith put together footage from each interview specific to a topic - what it was like being a small child when the parents converted, what it was like being dragged to the meetings and out in "service" as a small child, what it was like missing out on christmas, birthdays and other fun holidays, what it was like going to school and feeling different or isolated, what it was like being denied - "discouraged" - from getting a college education, what it was like dating - or "non-dating" in the religion, what it was like having one's sexual behaviors controlled and censured, what it was like being disfellowshipped, and so on.... as the film's director, gregorio smith said, his "target audience" was three-fold.... ex-jehovah's witnesses, who would be most likely to identify with the people in the film.... non-jehovah's witnesses - "worldly" people - who are interested in or might be considering joining the religion.... and the group least likely to actually see the movie - active jehovah's witnesses - however, disenchanted jws and those considering an exit might be more likely to view it.. it was well done.
the movie used a somewhat non-threatening approach, as opposed to a confrontational or sensationalistic technique.. there wasn't anything actually new in the movie's information, though one comment made by a young man - gregorio's brother, i think - really hit home... regarding the practice of making small children go door-to-door proselytising, he said:.
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whathappened
This movie looks and sounds like a labor of love. I would purchase a copy from him if they become available.
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Of course we do have to remember that Rutherford continued to teach what Russell taught and even said Russell was continueing to direct the society "from beyond the veil.". The Studies in the Scriptures contined to be distributed by the Watchtower Society until 1929. In fact, many of Russell's crazy teachings were not totally discarded until the 1940's.
"Lucy, you've got some splaining to do!"
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SADNESS
by compound complex inshe wraps me in her cold embrace,.
a hold that will not let go .
.. i welcome her with half a heart, .
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whathappened
Thanks for getting back to us on this. Glad you were just sharing your lovely poetry.
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Reasoning with Jehovah's Witnesses: Disfellowshipping
by Darth Rutherford inhow can we reason with jehovah's witnesses regarding the practice of disfellowshipping fellow believers?.
well, when you look up disfellowship in the nwt index, you are referenced to expel, expelled.. when you look up these two words, you get the following scriptures:.
john 16:2 men will expel you from the synagogue.
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whathappened
Thanks for pointing this scriptural president out to us. I may need this logical argument one day.