So, what exactly has "spiritual value"? and in what order of priority?
- Field service?
- Bible reading?
- Cleaning toilets?
- Shunning?
- Destroying families?
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June 15, 2011 WT... Are they really getting that desperate?
by Alfred inso i was just browsing the june 15, 2011 (study edition) watchtower and came across this seemingly desperate article in the last two pages (29 & 30):.
a christian has a scriptural obligation to care for his family, and that includes providing for their material needs.
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Help me understand the burning of the Qur'an
by jam inthe us embassy over ran, 12 kill in retaliation for the burning.
of the qur'an by that nut job here in the us.. a few questions, first of all the qur'an that was burn, was.
it the original copy, no.
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Muslims believe in honor. If anyone disagrees with them, they seem to think they must preserve their honor at all costs. Usually, it ends in death of one side or the other. They take the view that if someone burns their holy book, it is a personal attack on them and they must preserve their Muslim honor.
The Baptist Minister thinks he is right to burn the Koran, after all “The Muslims are the Apostates and will burn in hell!” Conversely, the Muslims think they have the only right view, “The Christians are the Infidels and deserve to die!” With each religious group convinced they have the exclusive channel to “Truth” there can be no cultural growth.
Muslims and Baptists are not the only religions on the planet who have this mentality. As an ex-member, I know Jehovah’s Witnesses think similarly, too. Their philosophy is, “Anyone who is not a Jehovah’s Witness is going to die at Armageddon!” That’s why they go door-knocking — to gain converts and “save souls.” My childhood friend Vicky was Catholic and she declared openly, “You are going to burn in hell if you don’t go to my church!” Different words, same mentality.
I believe religions enable a “Dark-Ages” type of thinking and behavior.
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Thanks for the clarity, Lil and Rick.
Much appreciated,
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Hi Lovelylil,
If you know him personally, you might want to drop in on him just to see if he's okay. I am just concerned he might need a doctor if he is ungrounded like someone described.
Just my spidey-sense. Makes sense to look out for each other.
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PublishingCult wrote:
He was/is an arrogant ass, lol. He left one cult of lies to start one of his own. You go give him a hug, though. He likes sycophants.
I'm not interested in being drawn into another belief since leaving the jws. One cult is enough per lifetime, thank you, PublishingCult.
I'm saying Rick is a human being. He may very well be anointed. Being anointed is not exclusive to the jws, as they would have us believe. But, Rick has become ungrounded after being disfellowshipped. That is because he set his roots in the jw cult, rather than on planet earth. Right now Rick needs help just as much as any other human being needs help who has become disillusioned by the JWs. The JWs have set us up to fail upon leaving. Rick is vulnerable right now, no matter how he "appears" to you or me.
Please don't judge him so adversely! That's all I'm saying.
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The Loving Disfellowshipping Arrangement
by headisspinning inmy youngest sister is the only person in my jw family who has had any real contact with my husband and i and our baby.
for the first year she cut us off too but then after a while she seemed to realize how horrible it was and she opened up to us.. well, she is very easily influenced by the family and so she cut us off again.
she tried to feed me the line about it being for our own good blah, blah, blah.. here is an excerpt from how i replied:.
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Now that we have left the organization, it is healthy for us to re-visit the rules and leave behind the ones that don't fit us.
It is time to re-write the rules to suit ourselves. That is what free will is all about!
Cheers,
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If people can't or won't choose, then they cannot be "responsible."
Sheeple are not "responsible"... they are co-dependent, in this case, with the elders, or with the religion.
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It's not Rick's fault. He was looking for an organization to "belong" to, then became disillusioned when the borg turned on him. He's just another casualty of the WT. Really, he needs our support and care.
Rick, please talk to your family doctor about getting some counselling. Go for a walk in nature. It will help you to get grounded. You may be "anointed" but you are still human, dear one. Get grounded.
Glentrevette, please call 911 and talk to someone about what you are feeling. You are important. You are a human being who wanted to trust in God. Unfortunately, a human organization wasn't the answer. Don't allow yourself to self-destruct.
Love
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The Loving Disfellowshipping Arrangement
by headisspinning inmy youngest sister is the only person in my jw family who has had any real contact with my husband and i and our baby.
for the first year she cut us off too but then after a while she seemed to realize how horrible it was and she opened up to us.. well, she is very easily influenced by the family and so she cut us off again.
she tried to feed me the line about it being for our own good blah, blah, blah.. here is an excerpt from how i replied:.
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jiyuu2 wrote:
M en will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills you will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God. - John 16:2
It seems there will always be people who try to justify hateful things in the name of "sacred service", even to the point of 'killing' their natural family relationships.I have been thinking about this scripture lately. This is my sentiment exactly. Well said! Thanks, jiyuu2!
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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Sounds believable to me.
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