Posts by satinka

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All knowledge would be taken...?

by satinka in

jw
friends

do you recall hearing this teaching...?.

i recall as a jw i was taught that if anyone dared to leave the organization, all knowledge would be taken from us.

turns out it was yet another jw lie.. now, eleven years after leaving, i still remember the scriptures word for word and by using the concordance i find my way back to the scripture in question.

satinka

Mr Freeze wrote:

Were they saying we'd become like neanderthals or something?

I think what they meant was that when someone leaves, the holy spirit would also leave and thus we would be rendered helpless or ineffective to speak about the bible. I suppose it is meant to discredit us. No JWs would take us seriously after leaving. Another lie of the WT. No wonder they are not allowed to speak to us. If they did they would leave, too! Well thought out propaganda by the ole patriarchs of the WT.

Snowbird wrote:

I've been out mentally for 17 years, and physically, 6; I have a better grasp of and appreciation for the Holy Scriptures than ever. Even Revelation.

Glad to hear it! Of course its easy to believe NOW, though. It is my experience too, Snowbird.

PyramidScheme wrote:

I even receive the new light faster than those who actually go to the meetings.

LOL! I receive new light too, but it isn't the same light as the WT, fortunately. Maybe its new light ABOUT the WT lies!

satinka

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JWs Not Allowed to Post on Websites?

by StandFirm in

this seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.

who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.

satinka

Stand firm says:

isaacaustin suggests I tell my elders I post here. Why would I do that? It is websites like this that claim that Witnesses must run to their elders to make their decisions for them. I, however, can make conscientious decisions for myself.

Awwww...I do believe I hear some independent thinking going on...sounds a bit like Eve at the ole fruit tree. Personally, I like Eve.

Another observation...if it is true that you make your own decisions, why are you constantly quoting watchtowers?

Now I have an aside question...if we feed the trolls, will they grow?

satinka

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All knowledge would be taken...?

by satinka in

jw
friends

do you recall hearing this teaching...?.

i recall as a jw i was taught that if anyone dared to leave the organization, all knowledge would be taken from us.

turns out it was yet another jw lie.. now, eleven years after leaving, i still remember the scriptures word for word and by using the concordance i find my way back to the scripture in question.

satinka

Do you recall hearing this teaching...?

I recall as a jw I was taught that if anyone dared to leave the organization, all knowledge would be taken from us.

Turns out it was yet another JW lie.

NOW, eleven years after leaving, I still remember the scriptures word for word and by using the concordance I find my way back to the scripture in question. I look at it with new eyes. A new meaning emerges and I know it fits my life NOW.

I'd appreciate hearing your comments.

satinka

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Recent activities at the laundermat and Payless shoe store

by loosie in

ok last time i went to the laudermat all i found was a trifold tract from the jw's.

they gave me so much room to write ( why do they do that?

) i wrote on there "when will you jw's stop leaving mags and tracts at this laundermat"...lol i wonder what will be there next week.. my friends works part time at payless shoe store.

satinka

I agree with you poppers...that was way outta line for the woman to leave tracts in the shoe boxes.

If I was a customer who found those, I would have been creeped out and likely would have left the store without buying anything.

I mighta wondered if the store owner was JW. I would have felt violated.

satinka

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YHWH a minor pagan god: Ugaritic Texts and the Sons of El

by DoomVoyager in

interesting.. here is the first thing i've found on the subject, though i haven't read much of it yet.. http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm.

pseudo.

satinka

@ 3Mozzies: I watched two of your videos and they are awesome. They ask good questions and offer a reasonable explanation about how religion has evolved and how history has been written and re-written.

Thanks for sharing!

satinka

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YHWH a minor pagan god: Ugaritic Texts and the Sons of El

by DoomVoyager in

interesting.. here is the first thing i've found on the subject, though i haven't read much of it yet.. http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm.

pseudo.

satinka

Heaven wrote:

satinka, ever since my teen years I have always wondered why the Goddess was eliminated by the ancients.

I love your comment, Heaven. I'm glad to see other women feel the same way. My feeling is that many entities wanted to be worshipped like gods and so consequently created patriarchal religions. By eliminating the Goddess and dissing women, they were able to accomplish their unbalanced goal of being worshipped and elevating men into something superior to women. Again, I feel it is out of balance.

I think Jehovah is only one of such entities.

Think of the fear that Jehovah desires from his worshippers. There are even scriptures in the Bible that refer to him as a "fear-inspiring" god. Sounds like he wants to be feared, rather than loved. I have heard from the platform that Jehovah is the "Great Patriarch." Abraham is another patriarch who is claimed to represent Jehovah.

For anyone to gobble up the Bible as being the only sacred book around...I feel the Bible was written with a view to selecting ONLY the books that support a patriarchal view --- and dismissing anything that included mentioning goddesses or women, unless these women supported the patriarchy and were subservient...like Esther. The JWs dismiss gnosticism for that reason. They also dismiss many good books of the apocrypha.

satinka

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demons and dreams (sexual )

by jam in

satinka

Sex dreams are great. What does that have to do with demunz???

satinka

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YHWH a minor pagan god: Ugaritic Texts and the Sons of El

by DoomVoyager in

interesting.. here is the first thing i've found on the subject, though i haven't read much of it yet.. http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm.

pseudo.

satinka

The Gnostic Gospel in the "Wisdom of Solomon," Hokmah was equated with the Egyptian Goddess and called the all-powerful Mother... a spirit penetrating all creation, higher than the stars, fairer than sunlight (Barrett, pp. 143, 217-219). In the Gnostic gospel "On the Origin of the World" said it was [Hokmah] who gave birth to Jehovah himself, and taught him how to create the forms of living creatures, though she alone infused them with the power of life. (Robinson, p 176)

The above is quoted in B.G. Walker, The Crone. San Francisco, CA., 1985. pp. 51-2.

Shoot me if you want. I'm just sayin'

satinka

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Recent activities at the laundermat and Payless shoe store

by loosie in

ok last time i went to the laudermat all i found was a trifold tract from the jw's.

they gave me so much room to write ( why do they do that?

) i wrote on there "when will you jw's stop leaving mags and tracts at this laundermat"...lol i wonder what will be there next week.. my friends works part time at payless shoe store.

satinka

My friend went back to that ailse to see if any shoes needed to be put away. She found Jw tracts stuffed in the kids shoe boxes and mags left under the boxes on the shelf.

LOL!!!...Yeah...the jw woman probably went back to the Service Meetin' and told the whole congregation about her new way of counting time! And the entire congregation thought she was brilliant and innovative!

Oops, I forgot... only "brudders" are allowed to be brilliant and innovative.

satinka

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What's the most dumbest/petty thing you've heard of someone being "stumbled" over?

by Reality79 in

- some loser once took offense that i hugged a sister goodbye at a leaving do and ran back to the elders like a little child telling on me.

i was 15, this sister was in her 40s at the time.. - this elder said someone told him they saw me with a copy of the sun newspaper.

yes, this paper is known for its 'page 3' topless girls but far from pornagraphic and i wasn't even thinking along those lines.. - one brother who had a good job was 'counselled' because he was actually able to buy himself nice things including a new car (shock, horror!!

satinka

Brothers were counseled for wearing colored shirts.

satinka