Posts by satinka

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First time ever - I attended my first Catholic Mass tonight...

by ziddina in

it was very interesting.... of course, the first thing i noticed was the building.

very different from a "kingdom hall" - this catholic church is in an extremely modern, six-sided building.

as one enters the building, their "holy water" font - fountain(???

satinka

Hi Zid,

Mr Satinka and I accompanied our friends to a Catholic Mass for Christmas once. Very formal. And because our friends are not married, they were not allowed to partake of the communion, even though they are regular church attenders. We did not go up to the front to partake, either. We are not Catholic. We are not married, either, so we would not be allowed. Catholics have quite a lot of rules to follow.

In the past, after leaving the jws, I have attended different kinds of churches...Christian Alliance Churches (shudder...too much like the jws), several New Age Churches (at least three different ones), Baptist Church (kinda harsh like the jws, too ), United Churches (most "moderate" and "inclusive" of all, in my experience).

I began thinking that church was not for me. I never really felt like I "belonged."

We are not church attenders any longer. Best thing we like to do is go for a walk in nature to feel connected.

Oh, and interestingly...I have "goddess" cards that I draw once a week or so, for inspiration!

satinka

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Do the governing body play God?

by TimothyT in

im reading ray franz's book crisis of conscience!

it is brilliant!

he brings out some amazing points as to the credibility of the governing body!

satinka

indeed

satinka

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"Do NOT go beyond the things written (but we can)."

by TimothyT in

i was doing some research yesterday on this scripture: 1 corinthians 4:6!.

"now, brothers, these things i have transferred so as to apply to myself and a?pollos for your good, that in our case you may learn the [rule]: do not go beyond the things that are written, in order that you may not be puffed up individually in favor of the one against the other.".

read this from the watchtower 2008, april 15th, page 7:.

satinka

If we never went beyond what was written, there would be no growth.

But the elders use that scripture to keep sheeple in the jw box.

Oh yeah, the WT does not want anyone to grow. That's what the the practice of shunning is all about, I guess.

satinka

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I was Dubsnubbed this past week.

by I quit! in

jw
friends

just this past week i went to see a jbub relative that was in the hospital.

there was an elder there from her hall.

he was probably there for support but also to make sure no blood was used.

satinka

What was I thinking? ...JWs have no respect

satinka

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Do You Consider Yourself A "Spiritual" Person Still?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think i am but am not exactly sure what it means..

satinka

One more thing...I have re-framed my definitions of "spiritual" from when I was JW.

I used to define myself as spiritual when:

1. I read my Bible (I don't read it anymore, unless I'm refuting some old jw belief)

2. I went in service ... Like bookpeddling makes anyone spiritual!

Just to give you an example of what I mean.

satinka

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Do you get hassled for posting here frequently?

by sabastious in

jw
friends

most people in my life that know how frequent i post on this forum find it very troubling.

i have often been accused of "not being able to let go.

" i don't agree that i post here because i'm not willing to let go, i think i post here because i think this place helps other people and i want to be part of it.

satinka

I have to keep explaining that I am still in healing mode and it is important to question myself... and learn who I really am...view myself through my own eyes, instead of how the WT sees me.

It's about finding my own identity.

satinka

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"if you chose not to choose you still have made a choice "

by jeckle in

jw
friends

i will choose free will.

satinka

Lots of people choose not to choose --- out of fear of choosing. The fear paralyzes them. After all, fear is a paralyser.

That's one reason for sheeple to stay in cults. Then elders can make their choices for them.

satinka

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I was Dubsnubbed this past week.

by I quit! in

jw
friends

just this past week i went to see a jbub relative that was in the hospital.

there was an elder there from her hall.

he was probably there for support but also to make sure no blood was used.

satinka

How dare he step into your yard, then shun you!

Where is the respect?!?! JWs have no sense of "boundaries" I have noticed.

satinka

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Do You Consider Yourself A "Spiritual" Person Still?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think i am but am not exactly sure what it means..

satinka

Interesting theory, Terry. And I certainly agree that we have to reframe our definitions until we can re-situate ourselves in a healthier new environment upon exiting the jws. If we kept their mindset, we would surely self-destruct.

However, I still consider myself spiritual. The best way I can explain why ... is something I blogged about http://hey-whichwayisup.blogspot.com/2011/03/kindness-of-stranger.html. I was feeling really bummed out about my brother and my two children who shun me, until I viewed it from a "spiritual" standpoint. Once I realized the "spiritual" implications about the kindness of a stranger shown toward me, the entire event taught me a valuable "spiritual" lesson. Without my new --- what I call a "spiritual" perception, I would have continued feeling down.

satinka

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MY You Tube video has been removed

by Lady Lee in

my jaw is on the floor.

after many years my youtube video about jehovah's witnesses and mind control has been taken off the internet.

here is what the page says.

satinka

Lady Lee,

Are the predators that are following you around ...whoever... JWs???

'cuz if they are jw...aren't they supposed to be shunning you instead of harrassing you?

JWs without morals... Guess it takes all kinds.

Anyway...I sure hope to hear you are mobile again shortly!

satinka