*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
godrulz states:
I have done my homework for decades to my satisfaction.
You mean to say, your view fits your pre-existing views/beliefs? Well, geez...my alcoholic father chose a religion that fit his pre-existing patriarchal views about beating his children, abusing his wife and treating her as a possession... rather than his beloved life partner. He was a "Christian."
satinka
*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
Pika-Chu wrote:
Sure. Let us first see if you can establish the notion that everything the Bible says is true and that the God it describes is real. That would be a nice start.
I agree. The Bible has "written out" and "destroyed" all the other gods and goddesses of the ancients. The patriarchs would have us believe these other gods/goddesses never existed and only Jehovah exists. Pu-leeease!
Perhaps another group could "write out" and "destroy" Jehovah --- and resurrect all the other gods/goddesses of the ancients.
satinka
*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
still thinking wrote:
All I see are people saying....look here...we have the Christ....no look here...we have the Christ....didn't the bible warn us that this would happen?
Yes, I recall seeing that.
A bunch of patriarch$ picked and chose which books to call the "Bible." The books they selected were in support of their pre-existing patriarchal religious views, in my humble opinion. After leaving the JWs, it has become clear to me that religious patriarch$ have their OWN interests in mind as they lead their fleeced flocks down the garden path.
satinka
on the news the other day they showed a young man after graduating from high school went out and got drunk and had a bad car accident.
he was paralyze from the waist down.
instead of going into deep depression of what he did to himself he started his life over and went to college and was involved in inventing a exoskeleton for disable people.
watersprout wrote:
[Living JW-ish] would be another dictatorship....How could that be better??
Some people have learned to live co-dependant. They like somebody else to tell them what to do. Someone else is running their lives. These ones have given up their "free will." It's a sad state of affairs for one to have no "free will."
satinka
i'm still a semi member of the kh but not at all active and have major doubts when i started reading all kinds of opposing literature.
talked to elders about this and also my father but my father but he still believes it's the "truth".
anyways jist of this story is i gave my father a copy of "crisis of conscience".
lovelylil wrote:
OMG, His wife is Sonya? It IS The same Ken Cunningham! Most hated CO ever in Boston area. I remember the pounding the podium thing too.
LOL!!! Religious patriarchy at its finest!...can you fe-e-e-e-el the love...?
satinka
*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
godrulz wrote:
Jesus is not meek and mild...the greatest wrath is seen by Jesus in the book of Revelation'
My belief is...the above is a "patriarchal" view of Jesus...not necessarily accurate.
satinka
on the news the other day they showed a young man after graduating from high school went out and got drunk and had a bad car accident.
he was paralyze from the waist down.
instead of going into deep depression of what he did to himself he started his life over and went to college and was involved in inventing a exoskeleton for disable people.
Blondie, thanks for sharing the blog http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/diary.html.
I had a good laugh at the end!
satinka
hey y'all!
my name is kourtney and i am new to this form and jehovah witnesses.
right now i am studying the book "what does the bible really teach".
Cupcake wrote:
I was baptist which I hate anyways..
Then ru-u-u-u-un! After I left the jws, I visited a Baptist church. They are very similar to the JWs. Both harsh and judgmental with their respective flock.
The jws are in the "love-bombing" stage. But only till you get baptised. Then you will be forced to tow the line or get disfellowshipped.
satinka
two days ago!!!
a man i knew in england.his wife was a jw he wasnt.... i knew she had ran off with the elder..1999..was df so was the elder.. they were then reinstated -she divorced alan #1 !!!!
& married the elder another .
(((mouthy)))
What a great story! Thanks for sharing with us on the forum.
And HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Love,
satinka
what's a polite way to ask a man to keep his hands to himself while conversing in a group with you?.
this neighbor of mine and i were sitting in chairs on the deck with other people.. he always touched me whenever he said anything to me or i said anything to him.. it was as if he was using touch like an antenna to send and receive signals.. i didn't know what to do, so instead of risking embarrassment for us both, i did nothing but stand up and step away.. i stepped away after he attempted to caress my hamstrings on one leg.. *shudder*.
wonder why 60+ year old men think that a woman being nice to him means she's hot for him.. also wonders why it's only the smoking, beer guzzling, scrawny, bony, and smelly old men who do that.. .
Chickpea wrote:
you dont have to ASK someone to refrain from touching you! you TELL them
I agree…It’s about respect and personal boundaries. No one has an automatic right to touch you.
No obligation to be polite when someone touches you, uninvited. They are not being polite to touch you, uninvited.
You might remove his hand and say, “I don’t appreciate being touched like that.” Or “I would appreciate if you DON’T touch me.”
WD wrote:
In my faraway land, touching a person when they have told you not to, is considered a 'common assault'. Yes, that is the LAW.
In my far-away land, you don’t even have to touch someone to assault them.
Same, but different…Here is a blog about a masturbation incident that happened on public transportation where the victim was criticized…yes, the VICTIM:
http://hey-whichwayisup.blogspot.com/2011/01/public-masturbation-goes-mainstream.html
The two people referred to:
Obviously, you two don't believe that questions of such nature are appropriate here.
Fortunately for us, those two are not the authority on such matters. They are behaving in a disrespectful and non-validating manner. I believe your question in your original post is perfectly valid. Most women have never been taught to say “no” in a patriarchal society. It’s something we must learn ... later. The key is, it IS SOMETHING WE MUST LEARN because it is entirely appropriate for us to set personal boundaries for ourselves. I notice other similar comments from aSphereisnotaCircle and mrsjones. Nice to see the validation.
Blondie wrote:
A brother should not be touching any woman except his wife, especially if he has been asked not to by another woman. Touching after that becomes sexual harassment. There was an elder in our congregation that felt up all the young single sisters but they were afraid to say anything. He did so others did not see. He tried to add me to his "harem" and I quietly broke his finger without anyone seeing. (Do not piss off Blondie) He made no accusations and kept his distance from us after that.
Blondie rules! If I had half your wits...I would do what you did, too. But I don't. I'm sitll working on my conditioning. Perhaps one day. *sigh*
satinka
