*sigh* that means my son must be an elder by now.
satinka
today's wt lesson: serving jehovah with all seriousness, excerpt from paragraph 11:.
"if a brother has been baptized at least one year and to a reasonable degree meets the scriptural qualifications for ministerial servants outlined at 1 timothy 3:8-13, he can be recommended for appointment.".
how often have you seen someone become a ministerial servant one year after baptism?
*sigh* that means my son must be an elder by now.
satinka
yes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.
i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.
as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?
@ziddina:
Why don't they just charge a damned admission fee????
Awww c'mon, you know the answer to that question, but it had to be asked.
And the clue to the answer is:
It has everything to do with being sheeple
satinka
like a creep, i've popped out of nowhere and i've been throwing my 2 around all over this forum.
i'm sorry it's such a long post.
i hesitated and delayed writing it knowing it'd be long.
Welcome to the forum! (((Hugs Velour)))
Painful story like so many here about damage and abuse from the religion.
satinka
if you are afraid to join the forum and enter discussions, believe me -- we understand.. if you're feeling all alone, this message is especially for you.. sometimes people refrain from joining and posting because certain posts or threads really upset or offend them.
or maybe you're reluctant to jump in because you see interesting threads get hijacked or go off in all sorts of confusing directions and you don't want that to happen to you.. if that's you, i suggest you join and start with private messages (pms) instead.
doing it that way, you can correspond one-on-one with posters you feel most comfortable with.. how do you choose who to pm?
I lurked for a long time before I finally came on board. Glad I did, though.
The JWs sure know how to isolate one another. It's meant to break your spirit.
satinka
i would like to hear people's opinions on intolerant religious groups?
who wins?.
somehow, i have this notion that pentecostals would win 1st place, followed by baptists, followed by jw's.
dgp: Thanks. I follow your line of reasoning.
Unfortunately, a patriarchy is still a patriarchy. OPPRESSIVE
I for one don't like how OPPRESSION in the form of shunning feels.
satinka
i would like to hear people's opinions on intolerant religious groups?
who wins?.
somehow, i have this notion that pentecostals would win 1st place, followed by baptists, followed by jw's.
dgp wrote:
I would like to submit to you the idea that any intolerance due to religion is to be frowned upon, however mild, or however mild it might appear compared to others.
Religious intollerance is a way of life for the JWs. That is why this web forum exists! It is the result of intollerance to free thought within the JW organization. The JW belief system rests on the premise that the JWs are right and everyone else is going to die at Armageddon.
I'm surprised by your comment!
satinka
okay,hittin the wall now.the downs are more common than the up days at this early point.i read about post cult trauma syndrome, so i understand now why i feel numb, then angry,then weepy all in a nanosecond, like i'm gazing out of a fishbowl at a distorted world,why i'm having nightmares about congregation members.why my brain feels like a fried egg.why i want to run back to the only life i've known for 20 years, even though the thought of stepping foot inside of a kingdom hall causes me to panic.. sooo, can anyone recommend any good movies to rent to help me process some of this?.
i watched matrix twice,after i saw it mentioned on the discussion board.wow!how chilling.it's funny-i watched this movie while still a wavering dub and it disturbed me.now i know why.. i also like chocolat, the scarlet letter (i'm sending my da letter in a red envelope hehe), and the wall(plan to rent this again ).. i'm reading 1984.. i know i probably shouldn't be so focused on this-i need to start getting out there and finding the positive,and some days i manage to do that, but right now i seem to have a need to try and make sense of it all.. any more suggestions?.
cicatrix.
The Life of Brian
satinka
okay,hittin the wall now.the downs are more common than the up days at this early point.i read about post cult trauma syndrome, so i understand now why i feel numb, then angry,then weepy all in a nanosecond, like i'm gazing out of a fishbowl at a distorted world,why i'm having nightmares about congregation members.why my brain feels like a fried egg.why i want to run back to the only life i've known for 20 years, even though the thought of stepping foot inside of a kingdom hall causes me to panic.. sooo, can anyone recommend any good movies to rent to help me process some of this?.
i watched matrix twice,after i saw it mentioned on the discussion board.wow!how chilling.it's funny-i watched this movie while still a wavering dub and it disturbed me.now i know why.. i also like chocolat, the scarlet letter (i'm sending my da letter in a red envelope hehe), and the wall(plan to rent this again ).. i'm reading 1984.. i know i probably shouldn't be so focused on this-i need to start getting out there and finding the positive,and some days i manage to do that, but right now i seem to have a need to try and make sense of it all.. any more suggestions?.
cicatrix.
I hope no one minds if I resurrect this thread.
It's a good one! Great movies to help unravel the numbing mind control of the JWs.
satinka
i would like to hear people's opinions on intolerant religious groups?
who wins?.
somehow, i have this notion that pentecostals would win 1st place, followed by baptists, followed by jw's.
NewChapter wrote:
Some religions attract more extremists than others. JW's don't recognize any other religion as being valid, but they aren't likely to get violent.
JWs are "extremists" in another way. What about the extreme practice of shunning that results in suicide? Getting "cut off" from your family and friends in a second is based on the scripture in Liviticus 24 which talks about stoning of Apostates. JWs take that to mean you must treat Apostates as dead. Maybe not in a literal way do the JWs kill, but the result might be the same namely, suicide. Could the JWs not be viewed as "blood guilty" for their unwarranted judgment? I say "unwarranted" because no human has the right to judge another. The result of "shunning" is (sometimes) violent death because of religious action.
satinka
taken from the watchtower media website today:.
maybe im reading this wrong!!!.
http://www.jw-media.org/fra/20110630.htm.
Did the WT almost go bust? you ask...
Not yet, but it will!
satinka