I wonder if there will be any paragraphs about the danger of visiting Apostate Websites in the revision.
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DC 2011 Strange omission from the releases
by JWFreak inthere are 3 really basic releases for the dc this year.
revised vol 1 of young people ask.................hmmm lot of work in that one.
new brochure.
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Circuit Overseer talking Ray Franz in talk this morning (Phone number included)
by LightsOut ini'm still a semi member of the kh but not at all active and have major doubts when i started reading all kinds of opposing literature.
talked to elders about this and also my father but my father but he still believes it's the "truth".
anyways jist of this story is i gave my father a copy of "crisis of conscience".
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dontplaceliterature
...common' everyone loves a Southern Baptist Preacher....
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2011-2012 Let God's Kingdom Come DC starts this WEEKEND
by yknot inwell it is that time of year again....... dc season!!!!!
so any of yall going to be in brooklyn, queens, jersey city or oklahoma city this weekend?
maybe brooklyn, queens, jersey city, portland (or & me), green bay, west palm beach, sacramento, long beach, bakersfield or san diego weekend of 5/27.
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How is it possible that no one on this whole forum has the Program for the convention?
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New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine
by foolsparadise inhttp://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.
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brainwashing at its best here.
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It was likely the Sunday part after the Watchtower Study. He makes a dig at another brother in the beggining for going :10 over on a 30:00 part. There is only one 30 minute part during the Circuit Overseer's Visit - The Watchtower Study (sans the reading of the paragraphs).
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New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine
by foolsparadise inhttp://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.
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brainwashing at its best here.
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I honestly don't feel qualified, but it would be neat if we could team up and break this thing down "play-by-play" in the event that it is an outline from The Branch that all of the Circuit Overseers are using this year.
I'd love to be able to tear this apart with my wife at home when our Circuit Overseer gives this talk.
This guy is a totally arrogant bastard.
He's reaching for a new position in the chain of command, I bet.
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New Light @ The 2011 District Convention
by dontplaceliterature in" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.
my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?
" represents, or some other fangled idea.
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Thanks Ynot!
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New Light @ The 2011 District Convention
by dontplaceliterature in" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.
my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?
" represents, or some other fangled idea.
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Obviously the "?" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the Routine District Convention Article during the Service Meeting, I caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during Sunday's last talk.
My guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?" represents, or some other fangled idea. I bet they'll make everyone stand up again and recite some promise to work extra hard in the Ministry since we are SO close to The End. I'm already dreading this...
On a side note...has anyone seen a program list with all of the parts?
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2011 DC Invitation
by LostGeneration incouple of things i found kind of interesting.
on the front it has the wording "qualify to live in the paradise" or something to that effect.
just another weird thing that jws teach, having to "qualify" for the paradise, based on your works of course.. the back has the image of daniel with the world powers on it, the bottom has a circle with a "?
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Have any of the Elders on this board seen a talk line-up?
Ynot? Have you seen anything?
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2011 DC Invitation
by LostGeneration incouple of things i found kind of interesting.
on the front it has the wording "qualify to live in the paradise" or something to that effect.
just another weird thing that jws teach, having to "qualify" for the paradise, based on your works of course.. the back has the image of daniel with the world powers on it, the bottom has a circle with a "?
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There have been "Dramatic Bible Readings" at the last two or three conventions. So, that is nothing new.
There have also been "Modern Dramas" on Saturday at the last two conventions. I was asked to do one of them. They are only 5 minutes long or so. Last years involved a younger couple, and the husband and wife were upset because he was not appointed as an Elder after the most recent Circuit Overseer's visit.
I would assume that this convention is "business-as-usual" comapared to the last two years. They are just trying to do a better job of selling it to the public this time around.
I'm sure this is bound to be a nutty convention, if this invite is any indication. I will be recording the whole program and posting a full report this Summer.
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Was Judas Present During "The Lord's Evening Meal"?
by dontplaceliterature inso...i heard the speaker during the memorial mention this.
he said for a fact, that judas would not have been present.
however, upon reading luke 22, you see clearly that the argument about judas started after jesus instituted the new covenant.
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So...I heard the speaker during the Memorial mention this. He said for a fact, that Judas would not have been present. However, upon reading Luke 22, you see clearly that the argument about Judas started AFTER Jesus instituted The New Covenant.
I thought...HOLD ON A SECOND...and decided to research it.
Matthew doesn't say anything about Judas leaving, ever. Mark doesn't say anything about Judas leaving, ever. Luke says he was there. John doesn't mention The New Covenant at all, but says that he left, but there is no context with which to place the timing of his leaving against the issuance of The New Covenant.
The Insight Book under 'Judas' mentions the same lines of reasoning that are presented in the '57 Questions From Readers article about my same question. The articles both say that Luke was likely written out of chronological order (because everyone knows that doctors are horrible with records). This is a HUGE assumption, with no verifiable evidence to prove its truth.
The articles also try to harmonize Matthew's account with John's, since in Matthew, Jesus mentions he has a betrayer before he institutes The Covenant (but Judas is not recorded as leaving), and in John, Judas is show as leaving "immediately" after Jesus mentions he has a betrayer, althought The Covenant is not mentioned in John's account.
Lastly, the articles point out that Judas would not have been someone who stuck with Jesus through his trials (Luke 22:28), and so by inferrence, he would have been gone from the table when Jesus said this. This also is a pretty big assumption, IMHO.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I see the likely-hood that Judas would have been dismissed before "The Covenant" but Matthew, Mark, and John are all too ambiguous to know for sure. Luke makes it pretty plain that Judas was present at least until after "The Covenant" was set up.
It seems to me, that the much more humble approach would simply have been to say: "There is no way to know for sure."
Rather, it seems that The Scriptures are being manipulated to say more than they actually say, just to fit The Watchtower's vision of how EXCLUSIVE The New Covenant Arrangement is.