Posts by NVR2L8

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First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...

by NVR2L8 in

9 years ago

today my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.

surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!

i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.

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NVR2L8 9 years ago

Bonsai

Thanks for your comment. I like my position as an inactive JW because most of my close family are very involved in the cult and I can still have some kind of relationship with them. If you read my story you will find out that I bought a house where I can have my unbaptized son, his JW wife and grandchildren under my roof so I can technically interact with them if one day I am banished by the group. I already told the elders to leave me alone when they came to my house unannounced 2 years after I stopped going to the meetings. So I refrain from telling them off for these reasons and I want to leave on my own terms.

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First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...

by NVR2L8 in

9 years ago

today my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.

surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!

i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.

9 years ago

NVR2L8 9 years ago

Today my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting. Surprisingly she asked if I wanted to fill mine! I have been inactive for 6 years and I don't go close to any JW gatherings because I don't want friends who only care for me unless I share their beliefs. So when I declined she asked what would happen in case of an emergency. I told her I would trust the doctors to provide the best medical care to save my life. She said that she would prefer dying than talking blood or even blood fractions. I told her I used to agree with her but the numerous changes in the blood policies of the WT raised doubts in me that these were human rules and not divine. Her reply was that accepting fractions is a conscience matter to which I said accepting other components of blood should be the same. Can you show me in the bible where it says which blood fractions are acceptable and which are forbidden? Does abstaining from blood means more than not eating it? I gave her the example of abstaining from alcohol doesn't prevent you from using some as a disinfectant...to this she replied: ALCOHOL YOU DRINK IS NOT THE SAME AS ALCOHOL YOU USE TO DISINFECT A WOUND. After such a poorly reasoned answer I chose to end the conversation. My only concern now is that she tells an elder that I won't fill in the medical directive and that they start asking questions.

On a positive note we managed to keep our cool but all hopes of reasoning with her are gone...she can only repeat the WT brainwashed bull shit.

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From yesterday WT, don't have kids and if you do then don't see them often nor the grandkids either

by purrpurr in

9 years ago

unbelievable paragraph in yesterday's watchtower was "encouraging" the sheep to not have kids.

most of their growth comes from the born ins and they are still on about not having kids?.

then it went on to "encourage" those that do have kids or grandkids not to spend to much time with them and instead to spend their time serving kingdom interests!.

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NVR2L8 9 years ago

My son, wife and 2 children live in our house and we are really happy to see our grandchildren everyday. We got married in 73 and had our first child in 76...some relatives didn't attend our wedding because the end was so near and we should have waited...then 2 kids...I don't know how life would be without our family.

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Will Bro. Rogers be DF'd posthumously for drug addiction?

by ShirleyW in

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9 years ago

some have been df'd for suspicion of smoking cigarettes, yet bro.

rogers death is because of an addiction, fentanyl is what they are saying is the drug that did him in which was reported on the news as being more potent than heroine.

why is it that some nosy sister can report you because someone who looked like you was in the parking lot the same time as she was, yet bro.

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NVR2L8 9 years ago

I 've never heard of anyone ever being disfellowshipped posthumously...Prince is dead and his sins are forgiven...if that's what you believe as a JW.

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Which Public Talks did you enjoy giving/hearing? And which ones did you dislike giving or hearing?

by humblepotato in

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9 years ago

i was just going through some of my talk outlines and i've decided to git rid of quite a few of them.

i'm still serving, but as time goes on... there are many subjects i will not teach anymore.. i got rid of the outlines dealing with blood, the field ministry, and ones talking about 607 and 1914. i can barely stand hearing them let alone give them.

in fact, talk 41 "stand still and see the salvation of jehovah" is one i got rid of because its whole point was about having blind obedience toward the gb and the elders during the great tribulation, and that we need to start practicing obedience now if we want to survive.

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NVR2L8 9 years ago

I had a collection of 6 or 7 talks and then I moved to different language congregation and it took me years to qualify for giving talks...research for more recent statistics on earthquakes opened the floodgates. I saw how the WT used partial quotes or even misquoted sources to support their false claims...I believe the talk was special talk #105..I gave the talk locally and once in a neighbouring congregation...I was scheduled to give it again but I just couldn't so I resigned as a MS and faded away.

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Dutch branch refuses to meet with LGBT rights organization.

by Anders Andersen in

9 years ago

in the wake of the anti-gay cartoon, the coc (dutch lgbt rights organization) invited watchtower netherlands to discuss how watchtower is dealing with lgbt people in their ranks.

focus of the meeting would be on making sure lgbt jw feel safe and fully accepted.. today several newspapers are reporting that the branch declined the invitation, stating that they 'can't imagine lgbt jw feeling unsafe.

the branch won't talk to coc, but they might discuss internally with lgbt jw.'.

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NVR2L8 9 years ago

The world's government and institutions are about to be replaced by God's kingdom and there will be no humans rights under this perfect theocracy. You do what you're told or you disappear. All it took Adam and Eve was to eat fruit...LGBT will not exist when humans are perfect nor will anyone need rights because they will naturally submit to the laws of their creator. Doesn't it all make sense? I just can't wait until that time. SHOOT ME KNOW!

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A Comment by Lieu Made It Obvious That I Could Not Be A JW in 2016

by TMS in

9 years ago

the following comment by lieu on another topic shows me that i would be totally frustrated, actually exasperated, stifled and depressed in the modern form of jwdom: "therein lies the real problem billy, no one is paying any attention at regular meetings let alone conventions.

it's too boring, intentionally i think.

humans aren't hardwired to sit through hours of lecture with no interactions.

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NVR2L8 9 years ago

Today all the WT needs is a handful of "charismatic" speakers in front of a camera linked to the TV monitors found in the kingdom halls. To JWs a talk directly from a GB member holds much more weight than anything a local elder can say. JWs have been conditioned for more than a century to believe that the FDS class is God's way to direct them and now these appointed men can speak to you directly...what an awesome privilege to hear the message almost from God's mouth!

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REAL Miracles!!

by pale.emperor in

9 years ago

you all like miracles?

wanna hear some real miracles that have happened?

this is all true folks!

9 years ago

NVR2L8 9 years ago

Wasn't there a Year Book experience about the brothers not being able to acquire sand to make a cement slab for their Kingdom Hall and a torrential rain washed down a whole pile of sand from the lot of the local church where brothers previous ask the priest if they could have it but were refused?

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Believing Your Story is Real?

by new boy in

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9 years ago

this is my 200th topic after 14 years here on the board.

i hope i can make it a good one.

so my topic is stories.

9 years ago

NVR2L8 9 years ago

A few months ago I sat in on a lecture given by Clint Malarchuk, the National Hockey goaltender who almost died on the ice when his jugular was sliced by a skate. Later in life he self medicated because his PTSD was never treated and he attempted suicide by shooting himself in the chin. He talked about A.C.T. = Accept your situation, Change what makes you miserable or Trash it all and start over. I related perfectly to his message. Had I continued as a JW I would have committed suicide. I could not longer accept wasting the little time I have, couldn't change anything within the cult, so I trashed it all including my belief in God. This man's story was one that deeply touched me. He wrote a book that I will be purchasing soon.

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Do you play the lottery?

by Iamallcool in

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9 years ago

for me, i have only purchased just one powerball ticket in my life, that was few years ago and i am thinking about buying some more in the near future.

maybe i should push my luck even more this time.

i am going to buy 10 tickets.

9 years ago

NVR2L8 9 years ago

In 2009 I got a voucher for a free ticket at McDonald's and I almost threw it away when I discarded the waste from the meal. Then I decided to get the ticket that I left in my car's glove box. Months later I found the ticket with my fuel receipts as I was tracking down my business expenses. I checked the numbers on the lottery's website and I had a winner - $50K. As a good JW I checked in the publications to see if I could accept the prize. Older WT said it was OK since I didn't really wager any money to get the ticket but more recent WT articles said that the money was dirty because it is raised through a practice that displeases God. It was likened to accepting a gift of diamonds knowing that they were stolen. I struggled for a while before claiming the prize. What made my mind up was the fact JW will accept blood fractions knowing these are acquired through a practice forbidden by God...blood donation. After claiming the prize my wife and I never told anyone including our kids...until a few years after I faded away from the cult.

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