Posts by NVR2L8

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Judge Orders Transfusion for Jehovah's Witness Girl with Cancer

by ZeusRocks in

here's a link to the story from last night.. http://www.news.com.au/national/judge-forces-jehovahs-witness-parents-to-allow-transfusions-for-daughter-with-cancer/story-e6frfkvr-1226380955006.

i'm so glad i never needed one as a child.

even as an adult i still believed everything taught, but i think if faced with an early death, i would have caved and had a transfusion if it was deemed necessary for my survival.. i think even though the parents of this girl gave the standard jw response when questioned, i can't help but think they must feel at the very least, a little relieved that the decision is now out of their hands.

NVR2L8

Great news because this little girl is given a chance at life...a few years from now she may even thank the judge that ordered the blood transfusion! A few months ago I read a news article that was linked to one post from this site where an ex JW seeked out the lawyer that petition the court on her behalf when she was just a baby in need of medical treatment her JW parents would authorize. Some 30 years after the fact she was able to express her gratitude to the lawyer who cared enough to save her life...

A few years ago a WT lawyer gave a public talk in our congregation, relating the heroic display of faith of Bethany Hughes, a teenager who refused blood transfusion on religious grounds...we even heard a recorded interview of Bethany. Today I sympathize with her father who left the faith and desperately attempted to withdraw his daughter from the grip of the WT cult to save her life. But he had no chance because the mother and very present WT lawyer made sure she wouldn't disapoint them....and Jehovah of course....

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You can take your three day quickbuild and shove it...

by Aaron Eldridge in

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friends

there is a christian organisation that builds churches in one day, oddly enough they are called church in a day.

so much for the quickbuild being used as proof of god's divine order working through the organisation.. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/29/faithful-volunteers-build-church-in-one-day-in-iowa/.

NVR2L8

Our quick-build hall dating 1987 is full of mold because it was built in the rain...and after a cosmetic renovation all they did is to cover up the mold with paint and wallpaper...$50K wasted. After 3 weeks the novelty had already wore off and the general look of the KHall still was outdated...

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NHL Playoffs: who ya got puckheads?

by unshackled in

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friends

greetings my fellow fans of the frozen pond and old-time hockey.. it's time for the playoffs beard!.

so let's pick 'em.

who will be drinking from lord stanley's mug this year?

NVR2L8

Player introduction...I am not a fan of either team but I hope New Jersey wins it...for Martin Brodeur and because it's the Devils...

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NHL Playoffs: who ya got puckheads?

by unshackled in

jw
friends

greetings my fellow fans of the frozen pond and old-time hockey.. it's time for the playoffs beard!.

so let's pick 'em.

who will be drinking from lord stanley's mug this year?

NVR2L8

Player introduction...I am not a fan of either team but I hope New Jersey wins it...for Martin Brodeur and because it's the Devils...

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Germany: Huddled together on May 30, 2012 by phone hookup (Warren Sheweldt)

by bats in the belfry in

all the german jws are ordered to their kh wednesday evening to listen to a warren sheweldt.

never heard of him.

this is what one of the local papers printed in their religious section (google-translated from german):.

NVR2L8

Warren Shewfelt is a Canadian who served as a CO when I lived in Montreal. He served at the Canadian Branch and in East-Europe and there is a picture of him being hit during a mob attack at the K-Hall in one of the WT discussing JW being persecuted in Georgia (or Belarus). I don't have the WT CDROM but if you search his name you may find the article...

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23 scientists misquoted by the ever so deceitful Watchtower society

by Reality79 in

apologies if this has already been posted, but i actually found this to be an interesting and even funny read!.

http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/blatant_misquotes_in_the_origin_of_life_booklet.

*edit* sorry you will have to copy and paste link, the icon to insert url isn't working for me for some reason......

NVR2L8

Merci beaucoup!

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Reborn as a Computer, Possible says Dalai Lama

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/buddhism/and_ai.html.

dalai lama: yes, that's right.

[dalai lama laughs.

NVR2L8

If you can't recall anything from your previous life how would anyone ever know if you are reincarnated? I may have been king Solomon...today I'm Joe Smoe...all I know is what I feel right now!

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(PIONEERING) and the way to get ahead: PIOUS SNEERING

by Terry in

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friends

the year was 1969.. i had just spent my 2 years fulfilling my "neutrality" obligations to jehovah's organization during the viet nam war by going in to federal prison.. i thought i could use my parole to get my life together.. getting a job, saving some money, buying a car and getting a place to live didn't seem like radical or worldly ideas to me.. i guess i was pretty surprised when i walked in to the kingdom hall where i had not set foot since 1967.. .

instead of a homecoming i was greeted by----the congregation overseer (the pre-elder days).. in his hot little hand was the pioneer application form.

he handed it to me saying, "i know you'll want to continue your serving jehovah full time!".

NVR2L8

Coffee you have a reply,

NVR

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(PIONEERING) and the way to get ahead: PIOUS SNEERING

by Terry in

jw
friends

the year was 1969.. i had just spent my 2 years fulfilling my "neutrality" obligations to jehovah's organization during the viet nam war by going in to federal prison.. i thought i could use my parole to get my life together.. getting a job, saving some money, buying a car and getting a place to live didn't seem like radical or worldly ideas to me.. i guess i was pretty surprised when i walked in to the kingdom hall where i had not set foot since 1967.. .

instead of a homecoming i was greeted by----the congregation overseer (the pre-elder days).. in his hot little hand was the pioneer application form.

he handed it to me saying, "i know you'll want to continue your serving jehovah full time!".

NVR2L8

Thanks for your post. He took me back in time and I share the same feelings you expressed so clearly.

Here in Canada there was no military draft during the Vietnam war...but I remember young brothers from Massachusetts attending an international convention at the Montreal Forum in 1966 saying they dreaded returning home because draft cards were received. The frenzy of 1975 approaching made most of us do stupid things, like quiting high school or marrying way too young. I still can't get over the fact that I still believed after the failed prophecies. At that time I was newly married and planning a to have a family despite having everyone telling us this was a big mistake. Today my children are 36 and 33 and I have 2 grand children that started school. I cannot imagine life all alone without a wife and family as many who made that sacrifice for the WT...

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I have a new medical directive/record card

by smiddy in

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my wife and i joined probus earlier this year,and we received a medical record card to fill out ( optional ) usual personal information / contacts /medical problems / medications etc.

and comments.

and under comments i have stated i am an organ donor,i reject jw blood doctrine.i accept all medical procedures including blood products.. i felt the need to do this since over the years ,when i was an active witness, i have needed some medical treatment,an operation whereby i made it quite plain i would not accept blood under any circumstances being a jw.

NVR2L8

Good for you Smiddy!

A few months after I stopped attending the meetings I got rid of my medical directive card but I have yet to convince myself to be an organ/blood donor...I guess 50 years in the cult leaves some hang-ups difficult to overcome. At my next visit to my doctor I will make changes to my medical record to make sure I am given all necessary treatments in case of an accident or illness...my only concern is that there is a JW nurse working there and she may rat me out. My wife is still active while I am under the radar...for her and my family's sake I would like to keep it that way. If it was only up to me I would tell the WT where to go...but they have the ability to make life hell for their own members.