When I was in the cult I thought the TMS was the reason I am recognized as our company's best public speaker. Now that I am out of the cult I realized that something would be drastically wrong with me if after 50 years of practice I was not an expert! I could hhave spared 45 years and gotten a diploma if instead I went to college to acquire the same skills.
Posts by NVR2L8
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Does Anyone Feel the Ministerial School Helped Them?
by Band on the Run inas a born-in, i was eager to join the ministry school.
my cousins were also born-in but lived in different states.
there was keen competition to see who could do mature things, such as baptism (my mom said when i was 35) and ministry school.
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A Must Read! ... What Every Jehovah's Witness Needs To Know! [For Bible-Believers & Newbies Only]
by bjc2read inthe following information has been posted especially for bible-believers & "newbies" only...thanks!
i found this golden "nugget" surfing the net.. someone made this astute observation shown at the link below, and i just wanted to share it with all concerned here, especially after jws around the world just studied paragraph #17 of the nov. 15th, 2013 issue of the watchtower last sunday.. link: http://meletivivlon.com/2014/01/20/obey-jehovahs-shepherds-w13-1015-p-21/#comment-7711.
"jude" posted:.
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NVR2L8
Great reasoning and a big G for the use of illustrations.
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a few thoughts
by Defianttruth inthe true power of lies.
masturbation.
i remember my father being suspect of my long showers as a 13 year old.
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NVR2L8
I love your approach DT.
It brought me back to my youth. At 18 I bought a motorcycle and rode with other youths in my neighbourhood. One day 4 of us went to one of the guys home to listen to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon album. The guy had pot and they passed a joint around. I didn't feel the urge to run out but I turned it down telling them I didn't even smoke cigarettes...At that time in my "JW life" I already had responsibilities in the congregation as an assistant book study conductor and I assisted at the magazine counter...so I felt guilty for not avoiding a spiritually dangerous situation and staying in the house with my pot smoking buddies. Masturbation was also another matter that bothered my conscience...until all was "resolved" when I got married a few day before turning 19. Unlike many who married at that age in the mid-seventies, we are still happily married after 40 years.
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Super Tasty Kool Aid Flavored WT Study this Weekend!
by LostGeneration inwould love to hear comments on what is being said on the paragraph which states that if the wt demands you drink the kool aid, you should do it - even if you don't understand why!.
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look forward to any replies..
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The Literature Stands
by sherrie11 injust got a visit from two jw's and i mentioned the literature stands they have now.. i mentioned i walk past their stand they set up in my town every thursday on my way to work.
last week the stand was smaller and i asked why was it smaller.
no answer..... i then said you guys usually go door to door dont you?
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NVR2L8
When I was a child in the early sixties and my mom was vacation pioneering, she would start her time while walking me to school. One block away from my school there was a bus stop where we both stood silent holding up the latest mags. I hated doing this because my teacher and school mates would see me standing there. In these days the mags were much larger in size than today's so I would try to hide behind them. At that time we just stood silent, but sometime later we were instructed to approach the people to start a conversation. From that moment on fewer publishers went out to do street corner work...
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Did You Ever Hear An Elder or Bethelite's Comments That Made You Question ??
by minimus inyears ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.
a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.
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ecan6
Must be at a recent assembly...can you remember who gave that talk? Just curious because I'm from Mtl.
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Shocking Story On The Web About A Jehovah's Witness Couple
by Brother Mike inthe story is on daily mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540809/jehovahs-witness-couple-young-children-shot-dead-two-story-home-grandmother-grim-murder-suicide.html.
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NVR2L8
Such a sad story. Still the JW will spin it: The love and support at their funeral service was such a great witness for the people in the territory...and Jehovah held off the rain for those who may had to stand outside the overflowing Kingdom Hall...same as Whitney's funeral.
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Circuit Oversneer Says. . .
by piztjw in"do you realize how much of a privelge it is to enjoy the visit of the circuit overseer?
they are appointed by the governing body who in turn are apointed by jesus and holy spirit.
so you have a great privilege when we visit your congregation, because it is the same thing as having jesus visit you.
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NVR2L8
Circuit overseer Helmut Zoebel was instrumental in my leaving the cult. During one of his visits he made the following statements:
Anything you hope for in life will happen...all you need to do is wait. A young person may be eager to drive a car. In time he will reach the age to get his drivers permit and drive. Likewise we may be eagerly waiting for the new system...be patient and the end of this old system will arrive! It's like on a car trip where you think your destination is just passed the next hill...but it isn't...so you keep on driving until you get there. WTF moment! If we wait long enough the only thing guaranteed to happen is that we all die!
If repeated often enough, an inaccurate statement or a lie will eventually sound true. WTF moment had me ask myself where do I hear the same thing repeated over and over and over again? At the Kingdom Hall...ding ding ding we have a winner!
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The UNITED NATIONS IS TURNING ON RELIGION!!
by nicolaou inget ready for all the pointless, stupid speculation folks.
or maybe not, do modern dubs even remember or care about this aspect of their end-times nuttery?.
un panel confronts vatican on child sex abuse by clergy.
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NVR2L8
I thought the 7 headed wild beast is a amalgam of world powers that rule the world and that the image of the beast is the UN...
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After years of Watchtower fighting the BAN in Russia.....
by Newly Enlightened ini apologize if this topic was already covered, i didn't have time to look thru several pages of posts.... after several years of fighting their ban in russia.
russian court declares jw's literature extremist:.
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140113/186483571/russian-court-declares-jehovahs-witness-brochures-extremist.html?fb_action_ids=530487500391762&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5b1377130229215916%5d&action_type_map=%5b%22og.recommends%22%5d&action_ref_map=%5b%5d.
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I'm with you ADCMS...the WTS are the biggest hypocrites when they demand from the authorities the freedom of speech they deny their followers. That very freedom of speech allows them to trap more people in their cult.