did jesus preached to the dead souls of noahs days?.
in his first letter peter seems to imply that jesus immedaiately after his ressurection he preached to the dead souls of noah's days.in 1 peter 3:19,20 we read :"and in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison,who had formerly been disobedient when god was patiently waiting in noahs day,while the ark was being constructed,in which a few people, that is, eight souls,* were carried safely through the water.".
the following post offers insight to these obscure verses ...(click the link).
Why Jesus would preach to demons?
It's senseless in any bible interpretation, specially in JW.org theology.
The demons ALREADY know the good news as is stated several times in the bible.
It would only make sense to preach to people who doesn't know the good news.
This verse is a hot potato to JW.org because it clears show Jesus preaching to dead people (in a kind of isolated limbo).
i first posted here on 3rd june 2008. at the time i was an elder, appointed the previous october, i was 36 and i was a born-in.
at the time i'd become disillusioned with the society due to the governing body's letter explaining why the book study in private homes was being abolished.
april 2008 saw me start questioning this decision, privately of course, and this eventually led me to this site, to jwfacts and to many youtube videos, all of which began to errode my faith in the leaders of the organisation.. in july 2008, having discussed my doubts with my wife, i attended the district convention, deciding to give the society one last chance to convince me it was the truth.
{But I accept this fact as just the way it is. I have the power to change it, if I so choose.}
Words of wisdom.
Great experience. Thanx for sharing.
It's eerie how we can perceive a clear pattern among born-in's.
I'm following quite the same life pattern of yours:
* Born-in
* Ex-JW
* Mainstream evangelical christian
* Lost of faith in a god
* Sympathy of eastern religion/tradition/philosophy (buddhism, yoga, etc)
* Entrepreneurship
* Divorce
* Peace found in uncertainty
I would recommend to you to learn a lot about the theory of evolution and its several applications (in economics, computation, astronomy, psychology, etc..).
and he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.
(mark 9:1).
when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
Jesus was a false prophet?
No. He never existed.
there's a lot of talk right now about how stupid it is to have jws hand out leaflets with urls on them.
"why go to someone's door to tell them they can visit a web site that lets them ask for someone to come to their door?
" well, i'm sorry, but i have to weigh in with a contrary opinion here on how clever the society is.
there's a lot of talk right now about how stupid it is to have jws hand out leaflets with urls on them.
"why go to someone's door to tell them they can visit a web site that lets them ask for someone to come to their door?
" well, i'm sorry, but i have to weigh in with a contrary opinion here on how clever the society is.
I don't agree with the OP.
I think is a complete failure. And is so evident among them that until now they don't published no ONE experience about someone reaching to The Troof through the website.
They made up a lot of experiences about Andre, why not made up just ONE about the website?
Because even they know it's a complete failure.
And it's not like Youtube because people on internet likes to speak up, to interact and the JW.org is all about listen and obey. Even if they get some "guilty curiosity" about the JW's, people will search some forum to get personalized answers. Nobody online agree 100% of something why expect that with JW.org?
this is a song by lauren hill she had family ties to the jw cult, so it is very touching and moving, she even gets choked up in the middle of the song.
i like to share this song with new ones or old ones and those who have heard it before every now and again, it so refreshing and hopefull!
enjoy it!!!.
Eyes without a face - Billy Idol
Sunday morning - The Bolshoi
sorry,couldn't think of a better title for this post,without it being long.. i was thinking this morning,if ex-jws, who were born into the group less likely to join another religion after leaving.
vs. the witnesses who belonged to a church before joining the religion.. from my own prespective,being raised a witness,i have no intention of joining any religion.
and it seems that born-ins are less likely to join a religion after leaving the cult.. in my own experience,i think it's religious burn-out to tell the truth.
as some already know or perhaps guessed i'm interested in jung's ideas on the psyche, have been since a teenager and then the jws got me at and closed my mind.
after leaving mental "the truth" in my forties, my intrest renewed very quickly, a post leolia made to me on some subject unknowingly gave me my first prod, thanks leo.. well i was exploring my mind soon as i left the jw with some lengthy excursions into being a semi hermit in order to give myself over to much inner time, it even feels a bit selfish to do now so i gave it up,, for how long?
still probing but at a reduced rate.. jung studied all the religions, and all the ancient text he could get his hands on, and his knowedge of mythology was extensive.so he also is very understanding of what is enlightenment, as he said the experiences he had with the unconscious nearly tore him apart but he manged to survive it without loosing his sanity, jung also said that he was surprised at how much of the unconscious the buddha had made conscious without going insane.
Yes it is.
A clapping "snake"! LOL
as some already know or perhaps guessed i'm interested in jung's ideas on the psyche, have been since a teenager and then the jws got me at and closed my mind.
after leaving mental "the truth" in my forties, my intrest renewed very quickly, a post leolia made to me on some subject unknowingly gave me my first prod, thanks leo.. well i was exploring my mind soon as i left the jw with some lengthy excursions into being a semi hermit in order to give myself over to much inner time, it even feels a bit selfish to do now so i gave it up,, for how long?
still probing but at a reduced rate.. jung studied all the religions, and all the ancient text he could get his hands on, and his knowedge of mythology was extensive.so he also is very understanding of what is enlightenment, as he said the experiences he had with the unconscious nearly tore him apart but he manged to survive it without loosing his sanity, jung also said that he was surprised at how much of the unconscious the buddha had made conscious without going insane.
This is a bunch of woo.
If you are really interested in the human mind follow the Human Brain Project.
