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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

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  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  John_Mann

  Well is Nature magazine.

  And this concept is compatible with the genealogy in the Gospels. Adam and Eve lived about 4 thousand years BC.
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  I don't know what science you are reading but the most recent common ancestor of modern humans is just a couple of thousands years ago.

  Assuming that no genetically isolated human populations remain, the human MRCA may have lived 2,000 to 4,000 years ago.

  Rohde DL, Olson S, Chang JT; Olson; Chang (September 2004). "Modelling the recent common ancestry of all living humans" (PDF). Nature. 431 (7008): 562–6.Bibcode:2004Natur.431..562R.doi:10.1038/nature02842.PMID 15457259

  http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/NatureAncestorsPressRelease.html

  
  
  
  
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  John_Mann

  The Catholic view is God created the universe and set natural laws to it.

  One of these laws is the evolution algorithm. It created the human body and the primitive mind in it.

  In some recent point, God chose a pair of these humanoids and put a soul in them. If the sons of the first couple took theirs mates from the others humanoids it was not bestiality, because there was no difference in the material body. And theirs sons received a human soul afterwards because is believed that every soul is created directly by God.

  This belief is consistent with the scientific knowledge about the most recent common ancestor and the human modern behaviour.

  The recent fundamentalist view on Genesis is not the traditional view of Christianity. Saint Augustine said in the third century the Genesis account it's a theological explanation.
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  John_Mann

  Well if I have to tell you why we can say animals don't perceive infinity and humans do...

  You're are wrong about the date of the most recent common ancestor of humans. It existed just a few thousand years.

  Only Christians consider matter as separated from God. Others religions consider matter as a body of a god. In these religions you cannot study matter but you must worship it.

  And you're are a positivist if you consider the scientific method the only valid knowledge.
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  John_Mann

  Viviane I was referring to the most recent common ancestor of humanity.

  The soul is what produces the sense of infinity in your mind. And the search for meaning, justice, beauty and so on. No other animal do that. So we can assume we have some extra in our animal minds.

  I know you're a positivist. I don't know if you're aware of that but you belongs to a failed French philosophy.

  Science could only be created in the Christian theology.
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  Abiogenesis seems to be the origin of life. Or panspermia.

  Evolution is the origin of species and the origin of animal minds (as explained in traducionism).

  I believe in some point the Creator of the universe gave a soul to a couple of humanoids. This happened thousands of years ago (as explained by "the most recent ancestor" evolutionary concept).
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  Human mind search for meaning.

  No animal do this.

  How evolution explains the search of meaning in the human mind?
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  The 1914 doctrine: How long it will last?

  by opusdei1972 in

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  one hundred years have passed and the society still supports this lie, which of course, is the basis of their other lies, like that of the unfaithful and not discreet slave appointed in 1919. however, i wonder, what will happen after 50 years, when the overlapped generation will pass?.

  and if you want, what will happen with this religion in 2100?, could it survive with the same lie??

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  1914 is invisible and overlapping. I guess it can last forever this way.

  People just want mirages.
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

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  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  John_Mann

  Condolences to her family.

  Requiescat in pace
  
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  December Study Watchtower - Preparing to Reveal a New Light?

  by The Searcher in

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  the jw/wtbt's anti-scriptural & anti-christ teaching that "a person's own death wipes out their sins" (based on their lie that romans 6:7 is to be interpreted literally) appears to have had a little wedge inserted into it.

  despite making numerous accurate references to the fact that 1st century christians had figuratively died to sin, the svengalis at the top of the brooklyn pyramid point-blank refuse to discuss/cite/quote romans 6:7 and its true meaning.

  page 10, par.

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  John_Mann

  Prologos can you refute the concept of sin in a philosophical way?

  You're partially right about the Bible.

  Bible purpose is to be theologically right about salvation of the soul. Secondly it intend to be historically correct too related to it's main goal.

  Christians knew since Saint Augustine that Genesis cannot be read literally.

  Sola Scriptura is wrong and cannot be defended. So atheism based on the refutation of Sola Scriptura is right in some way.