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Anybody have ideas about the double slit experiement with particles, how they react based on a human mind observing them?

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.

that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.

however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.

John_Mann

I am curious though, I wonder what would happen if instead of the scientists telling the sensors to record or not, if they programmed a computer to randomly record and not record sessions, so that nobody knows if it's recording or not, what would be the results of the experiment?

But that's what exactly happens! As I told is an experiment by trial and error, it's repeated a lot of times until a result is made (we just turn on the machines and go out to coffee). We don't have (yet) the ability to manipulated fundamental particles in a high precision way. This experiment it's like fishing that's the reason we call it "trap" and not "Hashi".

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Alan Turing gets royal pardon for homosexuality conviction in 1952

by Xanthippe in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25495315.

i don't know whether to laugh or cry..

John_Mann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSAiF9AHN4

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The BEST way to "wake up" a JW

by Phizzy in

we have debated this over many years and in many threads, as all of us have family and/or former friends still in.

it seems that there is no "best" way to wake up a jw, it is as elusive as the "true" religion it seems.. but a comment made by poster "emery" on another thread stood out to me, he/she said :.

"what i have gathered is that most witnesses seem to be in it for emotional reasons.

John_Mann

Yeah the remaining JW's are most very emotional people who don't give a shit to doctrines.

But I wonder how long such environment can last without thinking ones ?

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Anybody have ideas about the double slit experiement with particles, how they react based on a human mind observing them?

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.

that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.

however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.

John_Mann

It's unnecessary to say quantum properties does not extrapolates the metric realm (wich we live in).

So you will not change a mountain by using your mind and quantum mechanics sitting like a yogi.

But you can change a mountain through QM by using an atomic bomb.

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Anybody have ideas about the double slit experiement with particles, how they react based on a human mind observing them?

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.

that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.

however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.

John_Mann

Humans can't see quantum particles in a direct way. We can't see planets outside solar system in a direct way too.

But we can see them like a blind one can see with the help of a cane. But instead of a cane we throw "balls" (photons) to see quantum particles (another photons or electrons, etc).

And we use a very very cool device called Penning Trap to perform these experiments.

When a particle is trapped (by trial and error) it appears as a wave function it does not have a specific location, it appear and disappears everywhere (even outside the penning trap). But when the interaction is stablished the wave form collapses in the particle form. It's not the human conscious the cause of it, but the beam of photons directed (by a robot) to a trapped quantum (or fundamental) particle. Only after all of that we can see the results from recordings (not so mystical...).

As already said the OP video it's not entirely correct, it have a strong bias to woo.

IMHO the quantum phenomena does not support the idea of a creator, far from it! It seems to show that there's no creator because all the time every fundamental particle are being creating from nothing (vaccum fluctuations).

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Do the WTBTS monitor this site?

by quellycatface in

jw
friends

been reading some back posts.

just wondered if the borg monitor this or any other sites.wouldn't that make them apostate as well?

?typical double standard through and through.the scumbags.hope you all have a crap week.

John_Mann

Even if they offer money to me I could not think in a way to help them. There's no way to keep up the lie.

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Graphic violence against a Jehovah's Witness in the name of entertainment

by Debbie Klick in

a so called friend of mine sent me this link to a music video.. the song seems to be ridiculing jehovah's witness's and their practise.. but more disconcerting is the visual content, which actually shows the assault and murder of a jehovah's witness.. i can appreciate there is an element of humour involved, but find it in pretty poor taste.. and in no way a positive message to the populace and for the safety of jehovah's witness's in general.. .

http://youtu.be/huzs3c9wf98.