i wanted to reply on his post but i can't so here is my reply.. face reality elpiro.as long as there are despicable persons like hilter,stalin,etc.. we need a well equipt army to defeat scum like that.i am very thankful for the brave soldiers who did just that.. otherwise elpiro you and i would not have the freedom we do today.your 100 plus years of preaching has not brought that freedom.we need to face reality that we still have dictators today and that we need the army.. elpiro did you know that stalin said "religion needed to be removed under communist society"and that the orthodox church suffered greatly.tens of thousands of priests,monks and nuns were persecuted and killed,over 100,000 were shot during the purge.. elpiro are you not happy that the usa won the cold war.elpiro do you think they would of won the cold war w/o an army.are you not happy for the freedom that the russians have today.just think even your religion can now fight them in the courts today.do you think they could under communist rule?.
b.
The bible teaches that God has allowed all types of governments so that man can see that no human government is the answer to our problems, there would be a small group that would follow God and obey him no matter what.
We are very grateful to the governments that allow our work. Soon God will put an end the worlds governments and to the worlds religions, which has been used by Satan to further alienate man from Jehovah-God
hello doubtfully yours or el piro or other happy jw,.
there are 4 questions for you.
1. the issue i have is with paragraphs 1 & 8 of the study article on page 21 of the 15/09/2010 watchtower.
JOOKBEARD,
If u know I am going to lie, there is no point in me answering now is there?
Thetrueone,
No I don’t want to answer you; there is no point in it
Y not
I new you were going to say something about vindication, sanctification, listen it’s not a bad word and it doesn’t mean that we cant say the word, this is a thread I see all throughout, Taking what the watchtower says as coming from God himself, I was born in the truth and always we question and ask, discuss and ask again if needed
There are many things that make up the truth as we know it today, not just 1914
So if the difference is this, you are leaving out many other things that make up the good news.
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
The question does not make sense to me,
And you have not answered my question as to what the problem is with the preaching.
I am waiting for you to clear this up for me
Thanks
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
I don’t believe the WATCHTOWER with no question, no true Christian does that,
And it is very different to talk about why someone was disfellowshiped like you and ding say,
i am sure you were not there. And don’t know the whole story; you are just repeating what you have read
And stating it as a fact.
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
jookbeard,
I cant imagine why you are so interested in ynot's question, i answered the question but it seems
i did not say what some wanted me to say,
i asked ynot, to give me more info as i don’t think i am getting the whole story
as to why you guys fells that today’s message is not the same message, to me it is tell me how you see it.
what’s the problem?
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
Ding don’t believe everything you hear
this question was posed to me by a poster named ice cream.
i don't know my answer yet.
it's one of those, "if you could have just one wish.." kind of questions.
He would have to show me that the watchtower is wrong in not participating in wars like the rest of the so called Christians
That the watchtower is wrong in putting it’s faith in the kingdom and not man
That Christians are spread out in all sorts of organizations that think so differently about God they even go to war over it
He would have to show me that the WATCHTOWER is wrong regarding
The trinity
Hell
The purpose of God 4 the earth
That type of thing
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
Hortz,
And how do you expect me to take you seriously when you make that
Statement which you know is not true. You are willing to take this freedom with words,
stating something false as fact and or twisting the truth to bend it for yr agenda of discrediting the Witnesses.
“Where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.”—2 CORINTHIANS 3:17.
“For this I have been born and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.
Everyone that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice.” (John 18:37)
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
Ps sacramento,
‘That’s an interesting point you have brought up.
And you are right that we do have a responsibility to be witnesses for Jesus.
That’s why Jesus’ role in God’s purpose is emphasized in our publications
But here is something that may be a new thought to you.
(Rev. 1:5) . . . , 5 and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,”
“The firstborn from the dead,” and “The Ruler of the kings of the earth
Of whom was Jesus “the Faithful Witness”?(John 5:43 ; 17:6) . . . 43 I have come in the name of my Father, but YOU do not receive me; if someone else arrived in his own name, YOU would receive that one 6 “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.
Jesus set the example that we should imitate, did he not? . . . Why is it so important to get to know both Jesus and his Father? (John 17:3)’ This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ
i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .
i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .
there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.
ynot,
I feel you are not telling me the whole story
about how you feel that our message today differs from what the first Christians taught,
We have to remember that Christianity was new,
God's favor was with the new spiritual nation just born,
Jehovah allowed Jesus and his followers to perform resurrections and many miracles to prove this had God's baking.
Today we have the whole bible, so these miracles are not longer needed, so our message differs in this, also at that time the majority of people had not heard of Jesus, Today Most people have an idea of who he is and that he died for our sins, once past this hurdle, the message is concentrated on the fact that this kingdom will vindicate God and the issue raised by Satan will finally be resolved.
What good news do you think Jehovah’s witnesses preach and how do you think it differs from the early Christians and or the bible?
