Posts by DesirousOfChange

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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?

by cookiemaster in

hey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.

pretty happy with the current situation.

over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.

DesirousOfChange

Former elder here.

As long as you are not observed (by two witnesses) to spending the night with her, you should be able to avoid DFing. You will have to "really" not be intimate (f*cking) her, or you will have to be really discreet and not be caught.

The secondary risk is "dating an unbeliever". In the past this could be considered "loose conduct". I would fear that it might be construed as "Brazen Conduct" if you are counseled about it but blatanty (brazenly) ignore that counsel. This new "brazen conduct" is a "blanket cover all" for anything the elders want to use it for. If they are "after you", they could twist it to use against you. If they "want" to turn a blind eye to your relationship, they can do so.

Actually marrying the gal will get them off of your ass.

Good luck!

The greatest revenge is living a happy and successful life!

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GB’s WIGGLE

by Hairtrigger in

https://youtu.be/gpd453rzdzu.

if this has been posted before i apologize.

this about sums up what the grovelling body is looking to do!

DesirousOfChange

Anyone who has the 23 minutes to view this, kindly give a 1-minute summation.

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Money! How much did you "Contribute" To The WTB@TS When You Were A Member

by The Bethelite in

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i was in full time service for six years including bethel.

once i got out of bethel, i figured i had already given them six of the best years of my life (ages 18-24) working as a slave/drone in their factory, so i rationalized that i had given them enough... so over the next 27 years i would say maybe $200 bucks is it.

i think their whole "voluntary contributions" idea is biting them in the ass, because over all jehovah's witnesses are a cheap group people with a few exceptions.

DesirousOfChange

WOW! I'm a bit surprised at the replies.

We made regular contributions even before we really had the financial means to do so. Once we achieved some financial independence, we contributed generously. I thought it was the "right thing to do". I was convinced WTS used the donations frugally and to promote good things. I was a "believer". That gradually changed.

I first stopped all "green handshakes" when it was evident that the CO was living a better lifestyle than we were.

I next stopped all donations at Circus Assms when I saw how they wasted donated funds (after being appointed an elder and sitting in on the "business meetings"). They couldn't give a flying f**k about how they spent the donations of the "widows". Send all excess donations to NY so we look good!

I then stopped donations to the WorldWideWork and limited it to Kingdom Hall Building Fund and when our local Cong needed extra funds.

When it became evident (as I am clearly a "slow learner") that it was all a money scam and they could NEVER GET ENOUGH, I cut 'em off completely and concentrated on helping individuals that were less fortunate and in a financial bind (not because of their own stupid asset management). Tires and battery for an elderly widow's car. Airline ticket for an widowed, pioneer sister who had decided she needed to renew the relationship with her DFd son, who she had shunned because he was gay. A car for a single mom of 3 kids whose hubby abandoned her.

I saw such "causes" as things that deserved financial assistance much more than the greedy WTS and I felt like I could really make a difference in these people's lives.

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Is Global Warming One of the Most Important Issues To You!

by minimus in

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just curious..

DesirousOfChange

rubber- encasement in any worthwhile endeavour takes away the pure pleasure~ Waton

Are you sure this is about the environment?

Maybe my mind just naturally wonders to the gutter? Did anyone else go there with me?

27

Who Was/Is The Most Beautiful First Lady In USA?

by minimus in

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jackie kennedy was considered the most beautiful for years.

melania trump is obviously an ex model.

michelle obama has been touted as a true beauty.

DesirousOfChange

Blonde— for what it is worth, I did not recognize that picture to be Beyoncé either. Just a hot looking AA gal.

I know the name. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard her music and further, don’t know that I give a shit if I do or not. I’m sure she has a great base of fans buying her music and making her rich — just from a different age group & demographic.

I never bought a M Jackson album or attended a concert either. I do think he was a great entertainer. Just weird in too many other ways.

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Who Was/Is The Most Beautiful First Lady In USA?

by minimus in

jw
friends

jackie kennedy was considered the most beautiful for years.

melania trump is obviously an ex model.

michelle obama has been touted as a true beauty.

DesirousOfChange

Ya gotta admit that Melania is great looking.

Might seem like she's just a Trophy Wife, but she's not a Bimbo. She speaks SIX LANGUAGES.

25

New HuB logo

by MrHappy in

so the organisation has developed a new software for the coordination of nearly everything!

i just want point out a few things i notice about the new hub icon logo.

the image contains twelve pillars with the 2 at the front being the prominent.

DesirousOfChange

What's with all the Masonic-conspiracy-theory nutters posting recently?

Probably missed their Depakote.

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

DesirousOfChange

The difference is "facts" vs "faith".

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14 kids from the same old congregation

by StephaneLaliberte in

this week, while talking with some old friends, i realized that there were at least 14 kids from a congregation in which i grew up that all left the jws.

that is, 30 to 35 years ago, there were at least 14 kids going to the hall that were of the same “generation” (5 to 13 years old).

in the last 30 years, they have all left “the truth”.

DesirousOfChange

Stephanie, I'm curious if there are any of the kids that you think might have been better off in life if they'd had stayed with The Troof?

I know a few who left but ended up living really debauched lives that resulted in bad circumstances, including at least one in prison, one OD on drugs, etc. Awakening to TTATT doesn't mean that your life automatically improves. It depends on what you do with the years you have left.

The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!

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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

".

DesirousOfChange

I think you're pulling that figure of "4 million" out of your arse. No back up. No documentation. Just speculation. It's much more reasonable to accept their stated membership of 8 million. They do appeal to the downtrodden and they are making babies just as fast as everyone else these days.

More important in my mind is how many of the 8 million are "fictitious"? By that I mean, HOW MANY ARE NOT REALLY PUBLISHERS!

When the CO comes through, the Secretary calls Joe Irregular and gets Joe's field service time "up to date". Joe says he probably had 4-6 hours every month but just forgot to report it. SIX reports go in as six different publishers in that Cong record and not Joe is a regular publisher, in good standing. Bullshit. Joe maybe shows up one Saturday per month, says he has "his own group", and they go to McDonalds for a couple hours and have breakfast after making one "Not At Home" call and making one more as they leave McDonalds.

It includes all the PIMO's who turn in a token Field Circus report. It includes all the kids that just "ride along" all day, as well as all the adults who just ride around all day.

So in reality, there might only be 4 million WITNESSES who are really attempting to accomplish anything. Or less.