Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Seeking advice

by Mizalisa in

jw
friends

i'm not a jw, nor was i raised jw.

for the past three years i have been involved with a man who was raised jw, who at first told me he no longer believed as they did, but who, it has become clear over time, has not told his family or religious community the truth.

he has strung me along for years, never introduced me to anyone in his life.

DesirousOfChange

I think I know what you mean about the emotional stunting. My ex showed puzzling psychological patterns. At times he seemed almost sociopathic in his disregard for the feelings of others, but I realized it was just that he'd been so prejudiced to think of outsiders as less-than and sinful that he truly did not seem to realize we'd have morals at all. Especially women, whom he used like toilet paper. He seems childlike in his views, everything is black or white. He believes in demons. There's a paranoia to him, always thinking people are out to screw him over. He's deeply envious of one other filmmaker, sees the guy's success as a threat to his own, a zero sum game with only a handful of winners. Ugh. It is exhausting.

I've never known a better liar than this guy. He lied constantly. And utterly without remorse.

Hon, these are two of your recent quotes about this man. Do you really need anyone else's advice about what you should do with this relationship? I think maybe you're just looking for reassurance and support. This is a great group of people for that.

You seem to be intelligent and articulate in everything you say. Can you really not find a better potential mate?

Good luck!

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Needless rules

by road to nowhere in

may have been noted already.

i didnt find the comments on this wt looking back.

it struck me funny they would comment on anyone making rules; if anyone knows how to make rules it is wt.

DesirousOfChange

All of WT's man-made rules only apply to everyone else.

(It's kinda like all the laws passed by Congress. They're exempt.)

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News report - Montana Supreme Court Hearing: Silent No More: The Justices (Silent Part 4)

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.wlwt.com/article/silent-no-more-part-4-the-justices/29040023?fbclid=iwar1beverlfko8g4lz5hbsize6dl1b87ukfabevyv07iizgziawzq1gfvevu .

silent no more: the justices.

jehovah’s witnesses argue montana supreme court justices should overturn $35 million verdict—largest in u.s.. mark albert .

DesirousOfChange

In my opinion, this is the key:

"The statute says who's a mandatory reporter,” and the New York-based organization does not qualify, Taylor argued.

At the time of the abuse, did the State of Montana require religious leaders to report any knowledge of child abuse? If so, WT is guilty for not reporting and thus allowing further abuse. IF NOT, WT did not fall short of it's legal obligation.

If your State does not have mandatory reporting laws, it's YOUR problem because the lawmakers are YOUR representative. Fix the law.

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New Armageddon date?

by neat blue dog in

looking at the most recent wt the study article focuses on the jubilees.

the made a separate box in the article to highlight the math behind jubilees, and i'm wondering if they're trying to get people thinking and stir up the pot without actually making a false prophecy.

for instance: jubilees happened every 7 times 7 years.

DesirousOfChange

Armageddon will always be "Right Around the Corner"!

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one picture too far ( fetched)

by waton in

july 2019 wt mag.

study article 27, to sept 8 (last weak) sic intended.

page 5. .

DesirousOfChange

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Do You Think People Have Forgotten About 9/11?

by minimus in

jw
friends

after all these years, it seems to me that people do not properly take note of what happened on this date in 2001. for some, it’s like nothing major happened.

for me it is a day of reflection..

DesirousOfChange

I don't think it's forgotten any more than Pearl Harbor Day.

Life goes on. Business continues. (This is Capitalism.) But any one of age then, will never forget.

Doc

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Cringe in December

by neat blue dog in

oh boy, the meetings lined up for december are culty.. it all starts with a 5 minute talk someone has to give on the topic "why should we not be troubled by the increase of memorial partakers in recent years?".

the next week again inserts jws into bible prophecy, first with "the earth swallowed up the river", which claims that court victories for the org are really god's doing.

there is no mention on who is responsible for the many judgements against the org.. then there's this chart to be discussed that same night:.

DesirousOfChange

I think it's very interesting how WTS is tackling controversial issues head on.

100 years since 1914 -- CELEBRATE

100 years since 1918 -- The Kingdom Has accomplished more in the past 100 years than any government in history!

Child Abuse -- We Abhor Child Abuse -- All media reports of JW Child Abuse are Fake News!

Increase in Anointed -- Yeah! Why we should not be concerned.

If you thought they'd just try to let let these things "fade away" (like us haha), you're wrong. HEAD ON! DOUBLE DOWN!

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The impact and consequences of being born into the jehovahs witness cult.

by RayoFlight2014 in

hi from new south wales australia.

fyi , it's tuesday 10th september 2:36am here.. i am categorically not going to blame the cult for every poor choice.

i am conscious of the fact that i was at a genetically determined disadvantage academically; i was never going to be outstanding in my achievements, no matter how hard i tried.

DesirousOfChange

Stopped being a yes man.
And I learnt the power of.... no!

That will for sure get you into deep shit in WT Land.

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Emergency 'grab bag' campaign accused of scaremongering

by pleaseresearch in

a police campaign to get the public to prepare a "grab-and-go" bag in case of emergencies has been both criticised and mocked by social media users.. a police scotland tweet urged people to pack essentials such as a first aid kit, radio, torch, and food and water.. its recommendations were part of an annual preparedness month, which is being promoted by local authorities and emergency services across the uk.. however, the police force has been accused of scaremongering.. the tweet read: "september is preparedness month.

emergencies can happen at any time and it's recommended to have a #grabbag ready containing essential items including medication, copies of important documents, food/water, torch, radio and other personal items.".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49631455.

DesirousOfChange

Anything that the WTS suggests does NOT make it "wrong" just be cause WTS suggests it.

Emergency Preparedness is a good idea that is recommended by many agencies.

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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?

by cookiemaster in

hey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.

pretty happy with the current situation.

over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.

DesirousOfChange

Former elder here.

As long as you are not observed (by two witnesses) to spending the night with her, you should be able to avoid DFing. You will have to "really" not be intimate (f*cking) her, or you will have to be really discreet and not be caught.

The secondary risk is "dating an unbeliever". In the past this could be considered "loose conduct". I would fear that it might be construed as "Brazen Conduct" if you are counseled about it but blatanty (brazenly) ignore that counsel. This new "brazen conduct" is a "blanket cover all" for anything the elders want to use it for. If they are "after you", they could twist it to use against you. If they "want" to turn a blind eye to your relationship, they can do so.

Actually marrying the gal will get them off of your ass.

Good luck!

The greatest revenge is living a happy and successful life!