Divine Justice is what made the New World really attractive. Joe Hoover was going to "make all things right".
Didn't happen. Ain't going to.
No one (else) said life is fair.
i woke up early in life.
it’s not because i was smarter than my brothers and sisters.
in fact, reflecting back, i actually don’t know why i didn’t embrace the watchtower teachings?
Divine Justice is what made the New World really attractive. Joe Hoover was going to "make all things right".
Didn't happen. Ain't going to.
No one (else) said life is fair.
non-jw women usually expect their man to have some type of social status.
whether it's education, money, fame, etc.. these days, feminism also plays a role in a future, marriage.
(the man is not the head, maybe the women is the head).
Yes, most MUST settle for less because the poll of JW men is very limited. IF they are "spiritual", then they must be a MS &/or pioneer or even a Bethelite. Anything less and the woman (let's say "girl" because JW's don't wait to get married as fully adult "women") would be "weak" spiritually. A young couple would be criticized for worrying about a good paying job (let alone a "career") because THE END is sooooooo near and you can have all those things in the New World.
we do talk a lot about how this site doesn’t center on all things jw.
so what would you like to discuss?.
the floor is yours..
I am amazed that any reasonably intelligent JW can still "justify" the ridiculous doctrinal changes and flip flops. (Of course I did that for many, many years, but....) If you just limit this to the "overlapping" generations mumbo jumbo, shouldn't that be enough to awaken most people? I mean, clearly......Jesus DID NOT mean that.
Plus, it's not just that one generational change. I'm old enough to recall when THE GENERATION was those "of age" in 1914. Then those who could discern the facts that showed it was the "beginning" of the Last Days. Then anyone born before 1914. Then the fact that all those people were dead (or nearly dead) they simply had to "pull the plug" on that nonsense. But isn't the "overlapping" doctrine even MORE nonsensical? Geezus! WTF came up with this shit?
don't know how many of y'all still watch it.. this month's topic is "the king of the north" - cook goes into monotonous detail over the jw interpretation about rome, germany, ussr, russia, etc.. leaving aside for other commentators the emotionally manipulative videos of jws in russian holding cells, the tearjerker interviews, the god-awful stiffness of cook (i suspect he has never genuinely smiled, much less laughed, in his 60+ years), just thought i'd comment on one topic.. the centerpiece of the program is a "morning worship" monologue from splane.
let's again just leave to the side the dude's pomposity, smugness, and inflated sense of his own genius, and think about this part of his monologue.. he was tracing the history of the "king of the north" and talked about how "britain" (not england, not the united kingdom, not great britain, but "britain" - no idea why they have that fixation - anyway...) became the kotn in the 19th century.. paraphrasing his comments: "britain would not have become kotn if france had its way.
france was much wealthier and more powerful, but at the battle of waterloo, britain defeated france.
And the JW's just sit back, nod, and mutter: WOW!
Isn't it obvious Joe Hoover is directing the GB!
I’ll talk to JW‘s that we meet in public or out events where we both happen to be invited. And since we are not DFd and seen as only “spiritually weak and inactive”, most we’ll chat with us at least a little. I make a point to reassure them that life is great. No moaning. No whining. Just living life to the fullest. If and when it seems like the appropriate opportunity I might say something to plant a little seed of doubt.
remember when nixon resigned?
the big a was here some said.
remember 1986 and the "international year of peace and security?
I think the “Left” & the JW‘s have one thing in common, they never let a crisis go to waste. Every catastrophe is an opportunity to promote their own “end of the world“ scenario--be it Armageddon or global warming.
i give him an f for falling down on the job..
Yeah, DOC, I gotta admit, I was stumped by the reference to Harris as being "brilliant".
Magnum, I think Ed Harris is a "brilliant" actor.
actors' acceptance speeches have often been a little dodgy - viewers don't care what political or social views actors may have, we typically appreciate actors acting well.. this year's oscars awards ceremony seems to be going above and beyond, however.. here's frances mcdormand's acceptance speech, in which she dedicates her victory to 'our wolf' and then howls like a bitch, lol.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_be0awgwk.
WOW! You sayin' I missed the Academy Awards and didn't even know it (or care)?
i had seen a video evens did where he said that jws now say if you gambling for entertainment its ok. anyone have any link to the cult actually in print or video saying this?.
There were just too many JW's sneaking off to Vegas or to the Riverboats to play some slots. You can't DF everyone and esp not the folks that have a few extra bucks to piss away. (Same with porn. You'd lose ALL the Elders and MS if they still had the absolute ban and removed those who "sinned" on the internet.)
video from new publication.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/pub-lffv_542_video.
now only 7 members of fds.
These old farts are all bunkered down in the basement. I doubt they are having weekly meetings in person. The majority are old and overweight (obese), and at least one of them (Sam Herd) has diabetes. They really think the "pandemic" is the End of the World.