Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

by Foolednomore in

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i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

the craziness will continue.

DesirousOfChange

I have elders coming into my businesses and tell my that Geehovah blessed me well and I need to give back to Geehovah.

Carlin - God Needs Money - Imgflip

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The attorneys gave us bad advice.

by Lost in the fog in

the attorneys gave them bad advice, and when contacted the wt says we don't comment on specific cases.

what a cop out!.

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20220521/jehovahs-witness-elders-who-failed-to-report-child-abuse-got-bad-advice-say-local-pastors-attorneys.

DesirousOfChange

They will be applauded for "taking one [unscriptural judgement] for The Team". They suffer at the hands of Caesar who is no more than a puppet of the Devil.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

DesirousOfChange

It is a shame Lloyd Evans just isn't a better man.

THIS!

But it is not uncommon for someone who is struggling with a moral problem seeking to "get closer" to their God for some kind of penance. "Dear God, please forgive me for what I did and I will......." [do this for you].

I suspect Lloyd was a real zealot as a young JW and still would be except they kicked him out. So, not being the kind of person to just go away, he went away mad and turned his energy toward "getting even" with the group that rejected him.

So much for my Psych 101 class.

Stepping off of soapbox,

Doc

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Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

by joey jojo in

at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

DesirousOfChange

It is threads like this that leave me incredulous - how did I , how did WE ever believe this stuff ?

DITTO

I'm embarrassed. I am certainly glad that, thanks to the pitiful accomplishments of the World Wide Preaching Work, all of my "worldly" friends really know very little about JW doctrine lest they would likely think I am a total sucker and fool.

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What is "Brazen" conduct according to new 'Shepherd the Flock of God' book

by TastingFreedom in

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what is brazen conduct according to the watchtower?.

here are some references from the new flock book:.

they have really pushed the envelope to bundle a bunch of things into one really evil word.

DesirousOfChange

This is the "catch-all" if they want you out but cannot really find you guilty of a "real" offense.

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My story

by PimoElder in

hi everyone i’m a pimo elder ex bethelite and pioneer who has been having doubts for many years.

as of late i’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the gb pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies .

i will never take these vaccines even if it meant i couldn’t go to the hall as was previously said but the gb have done a big u turn on this now.

DesirousOfChange

Don't go away mad.

Just go away!

Thanks Simon!

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History repeated: pre-1975 trend of selling homes to ‘downsize’

by LongHairGal in

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i saw this thread on reddit.

i think the reason for this is that the 1975 fiasco is never mentioned in the jw religion.

nobody mentioned it to me when i came in the years after.. the problem with this is that all the sad stories were never told (or hushed up) of people who sold off homes, etc.

DesirousOfChange

1975 -- you must realize that if a person isn't at least 50 years old they remember nothing about the 1975 fiasco. Thus those who do remember it first-hand have so many years invested in the religion by this time that many are likely hesitant to chuck it all away. It is a case of "where else would we go" because it's their life's network.

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What is the harm or downside of being PIMO?

by PimoElder in

what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.

i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.

lots of interesting gossip 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

DesirousOfChange

PIMO is sure doing a lot of cutting and pasting in all the topics.

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My story

by PimoElder in

hi everyone i’m a pimo elder ex bethelite and pioneer who has been having doubts for many years.

as of late i’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the gb pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies .

i will never take these vaccines even if it meant i couldn’t go to the hall as was previously said but the gb have done a big u turn on this now.

DesirousOfChange

but I still feel it’s the closest to the truth than any other.

Be honest-- how many other religions have you really examined? As with most JW's, it doubtful if you really know the doctrines of your current religion. And just how close (or how far) to/from the "truth" does a religion have to be in order to be OK (with God or with YOU)?

"Close" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Remember the wee bit of poison in the glass of water?

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What is the harm or downside of being PIMO?

by PimoElder in

what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.

i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.

lots of interesting gossip 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

DesirousOfChange

PASTING WHAT I SAID IN ANOTHER THREAD BUT IT SEEMS TO FIT HERE AS WELL.

We have a close friend who suggested that we "Just Fake It". They believe they are "using" their association in the Borg for their own benefit. Good friends. Sure they are "conditional" but as long as they see you as part of the IN group, the ones that are your friends will be there for you. If you "fade", they'll eventually abandon you. Our friend is pretty well off financially so they are in the clique with the "beautiful" JW crowd -- you know, the ones who take cruises and go out to the nice places, and wear nice clothes, and have boats and pools etc. And.....they are generally pretty "moral" people (don't debate it, you get to pick who you run around with) and thus are not crude or rude, etc.

Frankly, we do miss that "association" thing. We had LOTS of JW friends while we were IN. But we just cannot see "faking it", even for that. I'm sure that when some dumbass thing was said in the WT Study or "Bible Study" I'd get caught rolling my eyes or I might even LOL at some of the puke they're serving up these days. Then it would be the "Back Room" ass whooping or inquisition. (I guess I'm too much of my "authentic" self?) Additionally we have discussed that we would feel guilty if others who had doubts decided to stay IN because they saw that we "believed" -- so it must be OK. (Did you have some JW's you looked up to that way?)

But the final straw is: You have to do what is good FOR YOU.