I think it's a Catch-22 for WT. Getting young men "involved" makes them feel important and gives them something to do within the Borg instead out in the "world". On the other hand, the deeper one gets involved into the inner circles them more BS you are exposed to and the more likely one is to see the hypocrisy and lack of evidence of any divine oversight.
DesirousOfChange
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Bring on the YOUNG elders
by enoughisenough inthere seems to be a push to fast track the younger men to become elders.
beings jesus was 30 when he took up his ministry, i would think that would sort of be an age gauge...the older men were to have their children in subjection, so some were old enough to have children that were old enough to want to rebel.
( that's my slant ) how will the ones who have been jw for years respond to being counseled by those younger than some of their grandchildren?
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Jehovah`s Witness Elders who were Business men in The Congregations I Attended.
by smiddy3 ina number of topics have covered work experiences by members who have encountered crticism for having a full time job .in the last few congregations i had attended this was never an issue as elders had businesses they owned and employed brothers and sisters .. while i personally never worked for a jw, both my young sons did at one time or another and my wife did also .i have always worked full time in secular employment and have never been criticised for doing so .and to my knowledge nobody else ever had that experience.. in the first cong.i attended an po as they were called at the time was an insurance agent and his bro.
was an assistant po also worked with the same ins,agency.. other congs,i attended one elder was an owner of a cabinet making firm while about 3 other different elders were self employed builders who ran their own business and employed others to work for them .. at the same time a couple of ms servants had their own plastering business going on supporting these elders business.. so i`m just wondering whether this is just depending on where you are from in the world and what time period we are talking about.. the time i`m talking about was in the sixties and seventies and the area was in s.e.
qld.
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The first thought that I had come to mind when reading the title was that the "businessmen" (at least the successful ones) were held on high and given prominent roles in the Borg. Evidently® Joe Hoover was blessing those men, just as he did Abraham and Job.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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We ended up giving it to the local food bank. I guess the publishers can go there if they are hungry.
While we were still "IN" I do know of a single mom with two kids who went to the local Pentecostal Church at the start of the school year when the Church gave out free winter coats to anyone, not just members and without questioning them. No doubt she was just guilty of not relying on Joe Hoover.
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Did you ever meet someone born in the 1800’s?
by Fisherman ini met freddie franz who was born in the 1880’s and many others from the 1880’s.
but as a very small child i remember someone very old aged 106 and that person was born around 1856 which means that he was around people from the 1700’s..
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Yes. My grandparents.
I've often considered how they grew up using horse & buggys and yet lived to fly in an airplane and even to witness man land on the moon. Their generation (not overlapping) seemed to qualify as the time when "knowledge will increase". (Dan 12:4)
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Have you driven in a country that drives on the opposite side of the road?
by FondaCox indid you drive?
if so, how nerve wracking was it for you?
i'd be terrified i'd stop concentrating for a moment and out of habit make a right turn at a red light into oncoming traffic.
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Not only driving on the "wrong" side of the road but with a stick shift on the wrong side of the driver.
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Reasons for doubting.
by New day insomebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.
i am in a similar position.
i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.
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We started our fade nearly 10 years ago. I can only think of three occasions where any of the local elders reached out to encourage us to return to meetings. Only one elder who was a close friend in another congregation, continued regularly to remind us of special events (Memorial, Assemblies, Convention).
OH THE LOVE!
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Jehovah's Witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking
by Bangalore injehovah's witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking.. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/08/05/jehovahs-witnesses-resume-sidewalk-carts-door-knocking-next-list/10168175002/.
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Cart witnessing -- just going through the motions to claim they are "preaching: again. Have you heard of anyone studying and reaching baptism from cart witnessing?
Door to door -- it will result in even more rejection by homeowners IF they are home. So likely just more "windshielding" despite the price of gasoline.
WE ARE DOING A LIFE-SAVING WORK
THE END IS NEAR!
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Who do you think leaked the Trump documents location to the FBI?
by GabeAthouse inwas it melania?
don jr?
or gary busey's son, eric trump?.
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The heavy-handed raid on Trump's Mar-e-Lago estate might even backfire, with Trump coming out of the episode looking better than before it started. ~ LUHE
It seems that is exactly what is happening.
But the GOP has been trying to find ways to either marginalize Trump or convince him to step aside, ~ Tonus
At least the GOP Swamp Creatures. Trump never realized how many of his own party were working against him.
I don't expect Biden to run (or to be allowed to run) in 2024. I also do not expect Kamala Harris to be the nominee, unless the Dems want to lose. I expect them to force both of them off the national stage and try to find someone who can win a race against a GOP turnout
WHO is "sitting on the bench" for the Dems that can come forward as a viable candidate? It's so shallow that even AOL has been suggested. (Speaking of shallow.) -
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Money donated for a specific reason
by enoughisenough ini decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.
in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.
my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.
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DesirousOfChange
I recall a "down and out" family seeking a handout who appeared with every family member holding a fountain Coke from a fast food restaurant, and then whining that they only had one piece of KFC chicken remaining for food. My thoughts were that we never bought a soft drink for everyone (6 X $1.00 = $6.00) and we "had the means" to do so. Further, if we were running out of food, we wouldn't run to a restaurant. We'd have gone to the grocery store where you could buy 2x or 3x the amount of food. But, oh my, someone would have to slave over the stove to cook it.
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Who says the Pandemic didn't wake up a lot of people!
by pistolpete inthere are actually tons of these experiences.
i wanted to post this one because it involved all the family of born in jws.. post;.
all my freakn dreams came true.
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DesirousOfChange
I'm honestly embarrassed to say I am/was a "JW".
Yes. Hard to believe I (we) was so gullible!