DesirousOfChange

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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Cofty, some people simply cannot humble themselves to admit they've been beat.
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  a pet peeve of mine

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.

  it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.

  there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.

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  DesirousOfChange

  A college degree isn't everything,

  Our newest SCOTUS justice is highly educated but cannot define a "woman".

  I don't think anyone intends to disparage the blue collar worker when they refer to such as lacking qualification to be an elder or whatever the subject at hand. Rather, it is to stress that they are not qualified for all the positions that WT places them in. Counselor. Therapist. Etc.
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  My defense speech before the judicial committee

  by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

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  2. experiences

  dear brothers!.

  we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

  it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

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  DesirousOfChange

  There is no way i could/would wade through that post ~ Smiddy

  Me either.

  I know of no BOE that would go through it either.
  
  
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  Anniversaries and DF family

  by road to nowhere in

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  my pim?

  daughter us having an anniversary get to gether.. some family is never in, son df.

  tsome he invitees are well entrenched dubs so son will either be left out or there will be " committee," matters if he shows.. i downplay events, or plain lie about them to son.

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  DesirousOfChange

  In a similar situation, we invited all the family (some JWs; some DF) and let them decide on their own. I did do the courtesy call to JWs to advise them a DF individual would be in attendance. They can make their own decision.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  DesirousOfChange

  I wonder if anyone ever get senile dementia and they keep them locked away until the[y] die?

  I believe that was the case with Grant Suiter.
  
  
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I have actually pondered over that more than once. The "red pill/blue pill" dilemma. I used to be able to think that all the injustices in the world would eventually be corrected by Sky Daddy. That's a nice thought! Now I have had to face the fact that it will never happen. There will always be injustices and "bad" peopled that take advantage of "good" people.

  I have also pondered it when attending the Memorial Service of an older, faithful JW -- they "believed" right to the end (their end). A wonderful couple. He was a CO for decades. Went to prison for refusing to join the Army in WW2. The last "grandfatherly" CO that we had. Now they are all "Company Men". More an auditor than a minister. He died not realizing "the prize" but was certain he would receive it after his resurrection. They had a good life serving others, gaining the love and respect of 1000's of JW's. Would it have been better for him to have taken the "red pill"? I cannot honestly say that I think that would have been better for him/them.
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  We are now 23 Years past Armageddon as the GB stated

  by JohnTron7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the end was going to come by 2000 as documented in the magazines back in the late 80's early 90's.. so how did they get the time off so badly ( over two decades and still nothing) since the gb is jehovah's earthly mouthpiece right ?

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'm pretty certain I have the 1961 WT bound volume posted on page 2 here. Does anyone know if it was changed when they reprinted it in the bound volume?
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  American Healthcare: How your system works

  by Diogenesister in

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  canada has universal healthcare.

  the consensus is that america never will.

  can anyone explain why, please?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Very beneficial/interesting discussion.

  I learned that as a citizen of the USA, my taxes are lower, gasoline is lower ($3.19 USG), I pay less for food & utilities & housing. So I guess I'll quit bitching about my taxes. My State has an average of 8% sales tax on most items, but only 3% on food. Some States have no sales tax. Others have no State income tax. But I think we have higher cost for medical care and esp for Rx drugs.

  For comparison purposes, I have a 4,000 SF (370 SM) home w/ 5 bedrooms & 5 bathrooms on 1/3 acre. Because I live in the Midwest where the cost of housing is lower than either coast, it's value is about $500,000. On either coast, it would be double, triple, or quadruple that value. My home's monthly utilities (water, electric & gas) totals about $300/MO. We have 5 cars. My highest mileage car gets 22 mpg. My lowest gets less than 10 mpg and requires premium octane gasoline at $3.59/USG but I only drive it about 3,000 miles per year. We are "middle class" (some might think "upper middle class"), but certainly not exceptional. Professional people (doctors, lawyers, engineers) earn far more than I. In the USA about 20% of working individuals earn over $100,000/year. Those in the top 10% usually earn over $250,000/yr.

  I'm afraid I know very little about how that compares in other places in the world.
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  American Healthcare: How your system works

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. current

  canada has universal healthcare.

  the consensus is that america never will.

  can anyone explain why, please?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Of course many Americans would like Universal Health Care. Problem is they want it for "free". Or, at least they want it at someone else's expense. The truly poor can get free healthcare, esp women & children. Free to them at least. Someone has to pay for it in the end. And of course, that's the citizens who are working and paying taxes. About 50% of Americans pay NO income tax but many still receive a "refund" via the Earned Income Credit.

  Most of us (who do pay taxes) think our taxes are high enough already. For example -- If my employer pays a $10,000 bonus for Christmas (or end of year bonus) to me, the cost to the company is $10,765 (plus some other minor taxes based on that amount). After federal, state, local and social security taxes are withheld from my bonus, I will receive about $6,000 total (or only about 55% of what it cost my employer).

  At what point am I paying enough in taxes to provide benefits to others (many of whom pay NO taxes)? Plus, for the 40+ years I worked, I paid all or part of my health insurance cost of premiums, plus still had to pay a deductible and co-pay (usually 10%). Now that I'm over 65 yo, I qualify for the federally provided Medicare health insurance (which covers elderly & disabled). But I still am required to pay some costs out-of-pocket. Last year that amount was $4000. Plus, often we must appeal to get procedures that the insurance company originally denies.

  There ain't no free lunch.
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  Normal people don't give a darn if you're a witness

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was posted on exjw reddit, check it out if some of you never have.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13q6k5l/normal_people_dont_give_a_darn_if_youre_a_witness/ .

  i find this to be the case, people in general are so not interested in religion that they really could care less about jws.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The vast majority of people neither know nor care what JWs believe. ~ Ding

  I'd add to that that the vast majority of JW's do not know what they believe.