When they said in one of the cartoons that Sophia should give her ice cream money to the Hall, my elderly mom quit contributing.
DO NOT F#(< with a kid's ice cream money!
DesirousOfChange
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Caleb & Sophia
by MissDaSilva inalways felt really uncomfortable with these kids propaganda videos.
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beyond creepy and it reminds me of the hitler youth.
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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DesirousOfChange
It would be interesting to hear from Lumberton local JWs if Tony & wife are attending meetings there or even Zooming meetings. But could be there was a Local Needs talk to squash the "gossip" before it even started.
It is in one of the poorest counties in NC and thus not likely to have too many "bright" PIMOs there.
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What is worse: 1914 or Beard change
by Gorb inwhat is worse for jw's: changing the 1914 doctrine or allowing beards without the right to say what their opinion is?.
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DesirousOfChange
So the 1914 doctrine is solid only in the minds of those who are also willing to mindlessly assume that Jesus was talking about an overlapping generation.
I suspect that not even 5% of active JWs could give you the scriptural explanation for how they arrive at 1914 (seven times, etc etc). At the very best, the average JW would explain the 1914 doctrine based on "the signs" that occurred -- war, famine, pestilence, etc.
And many couldn't explain it other than tell you to GO TO JW (dot) ORG.
The current batch of JWs do NOT know any doctrine.
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What is worse: 1914 or Beard change
by Gorb inwhat is worse for jw's: changing the 1914 doctrine or allowing beards without the right to say what their opinion is?.
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DesirousOfChange
except....if they changed 1914 it would give every Single Pimo, PimQ, and elder-doing-it-for-the-wife-but-too-scared-to-think the exact reason they need to get up and walk out
If they have not walked out already, they never will.
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What If?
by peacefulpete inrecent news about beards is getting lots of attention.
it made me wonder if any guys will return to the church under the impression that 'so much has changed'.
back when, i knew a couple guys who were outspoken about beards, seeing it as an issue, and was never terribly moved by their viewpoint.
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DesirousOfChange
I think they've caught a lot of crap about their pharisaic rules -- "going beyond these necessary things". Beards is just one of the most prominent examples of such and the issues happens to be a BIG issue for so many people because it is sooo obviously BS. Especially when beards have been allowed in some areas of the world, but banned in others. Our kids when only teenagers witnessed this when meeting elders visiting from Australia who all had full beards even though they were one of the "deadly sins" if you wore them here.
Hypocrites were not admired by Jesus either.
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Help urgently needed.
by MissDaSilva ina sister has snitched on me.
got a message from my group overseer requesting a little chat to see if i’m okay.
urgent suggestions needed please.
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DesirousOfChange
A sister has snitched on me.
I guess it depends what she is saying. That you have doubts? Or, that you're saying "apostate" things? Then Balaamsass gave good suggestions:
Smile, chuckle, and say: I think she/he misheard me. They are confused. etc.
If you want to continue on PIMO, then it's better to smile and deny than to avoid. IMO
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Beards!!!!! Just knock me over with a feather....
by Captain Schmideo2 inthey finally dropped that shoe!https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/?fbclid=iwar3tijct69fal1hlf_ukqsafejckrhuqwwvpyk_6ieulic82suqdnlyhsvm.
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DesirousOfChange
It took Jehovah and his stooges decades to catch up
Jehovah's Chariot ain't moving as quickly as it used to do.
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New GB update - beards are now perfectly ok (no really!)
by FFGhost into save y’all the agony of having to sit & watch lett (looking even more puffy and jaundiced than the last time), here is a summary:.
beards are now perfectly fine for anyone & everyone, including ministerial servants, elders, and “special full time servants” (cos and betheliites).. but don’t go and feel “vindicated” — even if you knew you were right about beards, you shouldn’t run ahead of jehovah’s “chariot”.. so there you go.. if you need explicit permission from a puffy steroid addled facial contortionist with an increasingly ridiculous combover to make personal grooming decisions…you might be in a cult .
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DesirousOfChange
Does this apply to sisters too? ~ Stan
Not sure about beards, but a mustache was never banned for sisters. In our old Cong, there was always old Sister Giocletti who sat in the back row. As a teenager, I was always jealous of her mustache.
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Beards are now allowed - New Light
by Listener inlett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.
this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..
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DesirousOfChange
After all these years They finally see the need to clarify the issue! Beards have been commonplace for decades and I thought the issue had died the death. It is not uncommon around here ( U K) to see an appointed man with a beard.
Nothing matters until the decision affects the US Branch.
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The "Problem" With Zoom
by XBEHERE inhere is the org's problem with zoom, attending this way does not fit with their "scriptural definition" of a christian gathering.
at least not anymore, one thing my pimi wife is fine with is attending on zoom occasionally, even 2-3 times a month or so.. if some of you recall, during covid there were break out rooms setup for people to stay on and associate.
many would also stay in the main meeting and talk over each other trying to say hello, etc.
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DesirousOfChange
Zoom is just too convenient.
People are busy and stressed out. With Zoom, no "getting ready" for the meeting (except the real diehards who do), and no commute to the Hall and back home (and with Halls having been sold everywhere, many are traveling 10-20 miles in our rural areas).
PLUS, you really do not have to sit there and listen!!! Turn the camera off, mute the mic and open a beer and watch TV.
Elders & MS are getting "orders" to show up in person. They in turn, "encourage" anyone wanting to make points to get appointed to show up in person. Then, there are the lonely people that will show up because it is their social network.