DesirousOfChange

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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  New light: The GB were too stupid to have everything fully revealed to them.

  Now, THAT is believable and likely will never be subject to change.
  
  
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  My grandmother called my mother

  by Anony Mous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i’m just posting this as a warning to lurking jws.

  if you’re still on the fence, here is a story.. my grandmother, now in her 80s hasn’t talked to anyone in the family for over 20 years ever since my mother was the last one of her children that left ‘the truth’, she had sent my mother a card to never talk to her again.

  so here we are 21 years later, she gets a call out of the blue that she needed help, she hadn’t been able to get into her kitchen.

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  (All) religion is a snare and a racket.
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong yourself; they shun you just because you don't follow the party line.

  What happened to the Israelites who blindly followed the High Priest, Aaron, in worshipping the Golden Calf?

  Ex 3:35 " And the Lord struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

  What happened to the Israelites who blindly followed the prophets in the days of Elijah?

  1 Kings 18:40 "And Elijah said to them, “Seize the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.” And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon and slaughtered them there."

  Was there any debate/confusion that what Elijah was speaking was true?

  See 1 Kings 18:36-39
  
  So, why is there confusion today about the words of the Governing Body?

  Deut 18:22 "when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously."

  
  
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Scholar Are you serious or a troll?

  That seems obvious to me.

  
  

  
  
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  2024 Regional convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone answer the question about the regional convention?

  has there been 2024 all three days convention released yet?

  videos and all?.

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  WOW! That would be (are is, if this is accurate) a HUGE change.
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  They should be paranoid considering how many people's lives they have harmed. There are likely a lot of folks who really are "out to get them" and would love nothing more than to see them topple from their ivory tower.
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  Where did they find that many JW kids to dunk?
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  Further education

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just saw on a video that there has been a change about further education.

  here is a screenshot of a letter that went to all elders.

  i am an elder but i don’t remember this one, perhaps it is only for some areas?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  A total disservice to post this kind of sh!t.

  If anything, it makes me question if the poster is doing so at the behest of WTS. Then anyone that would mention seeing such a letter would be identified as following apostate websites.
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  News Documentary: No Witnesses: Claims of abuse and denial in a religious sect

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://northernontario.ctvnews.ca/video/c2842685-w5--no-witnesses?playlistid=1.3856158 .

  investigative journalist avery haines.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Awesome news story. It really puts WT in a bad light. (Not to be confused with New Light.)

  After watching the Catholic Church implode on the CSA issue, WT legal should have had the foresight to provide better counsel to the GB on how to better address the issue within the Organization.

  Where was the "divine direction from the Holy Spirit"?
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  General Amnesty For Disfellowshipped

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  future gb: "please come back!

  all is forgiven!".

  would it work?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Here's a scenario, say someone is df'd at 17 for sex. They leave and later get married with kids leading a normal life for a decade or so. He or she obviously hasn't been engaged in immorality for years so why should they have to wait a year to be reinstated if the chose to come back? ~Nowwhat?

  That's a perfect example!

  Years ago WT/GB instituted a program where elders were to contact DFd JWs once per year to encourage them to return. It was revised that those who once made it clear they had no interest could be removed from the visits, and those DFd who were known as apostates were not to be contacted. (Think that was to keep them from awakening the elders??) LIke most WT policies, that seemed to be forgotten or dropped eventually, likely because of so much negative response.

  More recently they published the "Return To Jehovah" brochure. We had a couple elders who kindly dropped that off at our home. WT missed the opportunity at that time to make it obvious that the reinstatement of DFd who were not critical to the bOrg should have been encouraged to return as well as anyone only inactive. Yes, more would likely return if they were not humiliated to jump through all the hoops created by power hungry elders.