Posts by DesirousOfChange

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consequences for going against the direction.
by jehovaxx in
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there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.

there are no consequences for going against the direction.

we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.
DesirousOfChange

The change to the appeal committee is relevant but in practice the appeals that I seen turned over were in fact the case of the subject expressing their repentance better and in a different way at the appeal.
This may be what is changing. Remember, the Appeal Committee is hand-picked by the CO. They are not just local elders chosen at random. These Company Men will be there to protect the Borg. They will be entrusted to determine if the person being DF could pose a risk to the Borg if they are DF. Does the case open up any kind of liability to the Borg? Does it in any way make it possible to bring a charge of them violating Human Rights?
They won't be there to determine repentance. They will be there to determine risk!
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June 2024 WT: Don't talk about Anthony Morris
by neat blue dog in
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2. scandals
the latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.

and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.

..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.
DesirousOfChange

Is there a lot of chat in Kingdom Halls about Tony?
There is a helluva lot of chat about Tony outside the Hall!
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What I Remember From The Past...
by titch in
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folks: regarding all the recent changes about dis-fellowshipping and time for re-instatement.

(and, even speaking to persons who are dis-fellowshpped.

) back in 1972, a new book was released at the summer district convention, that replaced the yellow-colored "lamp": book.
DesirousOfChange

Plausible deniability to the secular authorities; we don't shun people who believe differently!
That is exactly what all these changes are about. WT needs to LOOK BETTER to the secular authorities. They have "gotten their tit in a wringer" with various governments around the world and are trying to appear "normal" instead of so draconian and malicious towards those who leave.
Hopefully these changes will lead to softening by the hardliners, but hopefully the secular authorities will not be fooled if there are not REAL changes.
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s-395 Adjustments-to-handling-serious-wrongdoing-in-the-congregation
by gavindlt in
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2. scandals
this was posted on jw leaks.. my truth's | dad seeking truth.

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DesirousOfChange

The GB are so interested in their own image and retaining their own authority and perceived holiness that they refuse to openly admit their own humanity in any kind of specific way. The results can be sad, even tragic. If they followed the New Testament example and admitted their errors, it might just warm people's hearts toward them instead of continuing the status quo of viewing them as on an entirely different plateau, as "holier than us."
It's been discussed many times that the GB has assigned some to read these sites. Too damn bad they do not have the balls to report back suggestions of this type. I'm sure such snoops are all brown-nosing "yes men".
BTW -- The difference between a brown nose and a shit head -- DEPTH PERCEPTION.
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Is this true?
by BoogerMan in
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"the watch tower society does not file any publicly accessible financial figures.".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/watch_tower_bible_and_tract_society_of_pennsylvania.

if so, are american charities totally free from scrutiny by the authorities & donors?.
DesirousOfChange

If so, are American charities totally free from scrutiny by the authorities & donors?
Religious charities are not held to any filing requirements, unless they are so blatant with their misuse of funds. Some ministries have been audited in recent years but there have been strict limitations enacted (I think since 2012) so such audits have ceased since that time.
Most recent exposes have been produced by secular news organizations.
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Beards vs. Shunning announcements
by slimboyfat in
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during lett’s announcement that beards are now allowed he elaborated at some length how brothers ought to feel and react to the change in policy.

he warned brothers not to resent not being able to grow beards earlier if they had wished to do so.

he also warned brothers who supported the old policy not to allow themselves to wonder what the point of doing so was now that it has changed.
DesirousOfChange

Are you doing this because you're a drone and someone else is telling you to?
Surely it must because their own Bible trained conscience has moved them to personally make changes. NOT that they are following some Cult!
Isn't it amazing how the Holy Spirit moves the conscience of all truth loving Witnesses AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!
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June 2024 WT: Don't talk about Anthony Morris
by neat blue dog in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
the latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.

and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.

..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.
DesirousOfChange

Would it be proper to speculate . . . . ~ June 2024 WT
LORD KNOWS THAT WT NEVER SPECULATES ABOUT ANYTHING !!
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Shunning etc. Good Meme
by Phizzy in
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DesirousOfChange

I think that thought would leave a lot of JWS thinking of you as an ungrateful prick.
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Punkofnice
by jhine in
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2. friends
does anyone know how punky is ?

he hasn't posted in a while ?

jan from tam .
DesirousOfChange

Perhaps another ex-JW that has moved on to being an ex ex-JW.
The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
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Will recent dress-code changes affect the WTS negatively?
by Wonderment in
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2. beliefs
in a span of a few months time, we have had many unexpected changes announced by the jw organization.

some here have expressed the belief that a great number of witnesses will leave the religion.

in fact, there is a great probability the opposite will be true.. yeah, ancient hardliners will have a hard time assimilating these changes, but the younger generation will likely welcome these changes.
DesirousOfChange

both were candid enough to tell me that they could not focus on the biblical discourse because they had a beautiful woman right before them with thin white pants showing her assets. It seems they both enjoyed the show (She even said so, I was stunned)
What? Young women who have experimented playing on both teams!
I think it's more common than not today.