DesirousOfChange

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  Jesus Joke

  by Simon in

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  2. humour

  it made me chuckle.

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  DesirousOfChange

  "IF YOU DON'T SIN,

  i DIED FOR NOTHING!"

  (Sorry, can't post the pic)
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  How does the Govering Body get enlightenment?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.

  decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.

  and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Usually it seems to take a multi-million dollar judgement to slap them some enlightenment into them.
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  2024-May-3rd-Announcement-and Transcripts!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-05-may-03-announcement.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/faad3e3dtranscripts for 2024 governing body update #3englishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/ce4ae1d8germanhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/3bf805be spanishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/a4e3fd3b frenchhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/d37d5822 russianhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/71fe8f28 grandpa!

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  DesirousOfChange

  Did the WT Biggies not imagine that such a change would open floodgates of problems? JW's are NOT accustomed to thinking for themselves. They are not capable of reasoning on their own because they typically just do what they are told to do.

  Evidently™ the GB/Helpers have not seen the YouTube videos of people at Walmart. Did they not realize that a certain population of JWs would be showing up at the Hall or for Field Circus in their "Walmart attire".

  No evidence of Holy Spirit helping them see through this one!
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Tony was always falling asleep in GB meetings!

  Somehow that isn't a surprise. To be fair, Tony seemed like one of the "sharpest" knives in their drawer. I'm sure sitting through the rantics of ole Rubber Face Lett; or do you remember how BORING Splane was trying to x-splane the Overlap Fiasco; or.......need I go on......

  Those meetings would put an angry ADHD child to sleep!
  
  
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  Why does it matter whether or not Armageddon is near?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why does it matter whether or not the end of the world ( (armageddon) is near?

  if it was next week, next year, next decade, next century?

  what is to be gained by knowing how close or far it is?

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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  But J.W's, in common with other "End Time" loving Christians, will ignore the proper interpretation and understanding of Scripture, so the tenuous claims of the Org. will still convince the gullible.

  
  

  For most of the R&F, they don't have to worry about such "deep questions".
  
  
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Ignore the 607 date and let it "fade" away and base all the 1914 Hocus Pocus appointment on the "signs" -- WW1, Spanish flu, etc
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  How they could change blood doctrine

  by Person in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many people say gb will soon dump blood doctrine to appear less fanatical.

  others saying it is impossible for them to do that because of legal ramifications.

  i think there is a way that could potentially be solution to those problems.

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  DesirousOfChange

  They simply need to:

  (1) disband the HLC so they are not "guilty" of pressuring anyone to refuse treatment;

  (2) relay to BOEs verbally via COs that due to Satan early hordes using the BT to attempt to destroy the Org, BT will NOT result in DF anytime a person "repents" (this is more or less the unwritten rule currently);

  (3) gradually move it to a contentious decision that everyone must deal with personally between himself & Jehovah. When a question regarding a BT arises, it can be dealt with on an individual basis through the Service Dept (who will decide all cases should be ignored).
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I am sure they are hoping they can survive until the CSA cases peter out. But as more and more US States drop the Statute of Limitations on filing lawsuits it brings in a whole new batch of problems for them.

  I think they really should be more concerned about their loss of charity status around the world. I don't ever see it at risk in the US, but Europe is just beginning to explode.
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  Wanting advise on a draft copy

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’m just curious what you think.

  this is in its draft stages.

  so excuse the mistakes and grammar.

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  DesirousOfChange

  How far up do you think that will make it?

  Lower level Service Dept grunt?

  It will at least save WT some toilet paper.

  Sorry to break it to you, but they don't given a sh!t.