The irony I see in this is the Society's connection with the U.N., which they have consistently said is basically a part of Satan's organization.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
DesirousOfChange
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By their own standards, they are no longer ...
by wantingtruth inby their own standards, they are no longer "jehovah's witnesses”.
.. i finally got a hold of the "od book" (organized to do jehovah's will), the book that replaced the other "organized" book for field service and congregational arrangements.
i was reading through this and noticed an irony starting on page 155. this section deals with "disassociation"... (i'm sure others have already seen or discussed this, but i've been running behind lately).. "a person might renounce his place in the christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming part of a secular organization that has objectives contrary to the bible and, hence, is under judgment by jehovah god.
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5 Shocking Reasons Why Elders Are Leaving The Jehovah’s Witnesses — The Hidden Truth!
by Golden4Altar in5 shocking reasons why elders are leaving the jehovah’s witnesses — the hidden truth!
(kingdom wisdom).
thousands of jehovah’s witness elders around the world are stepping down… and no one is talking about it.
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I can't figure out why it took them 30 years after the generation doctrine failed and 50 years after the 1975 prophecy failed to leave. What took them so long?
I've asked that question so many, many times. Unfortunately, I was asking it about myself.
Slow learner, I guess?
The greatest revenge is living a happy and successful life!
Doc
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Know it’s not true but stay anyway
by Elena inhow many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
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Some of my contemporaries even quit high school before 1975, and then when it didn't come then, they had to go back and get their diploma or a GED to qualify for any kind of paying job.
Blondie, we saw that in this area too. Young guys quitting high school to go do a job requiring a lot of manual labor but paying (what seemed like) good money at the time. They figured they only had to do it for a little while since THE END was SO very, very near. As time went on they got old and the physical labor was killing them. Many were unable to keep up the physical pace required and found they had no other skills to earn a good living. Others hung on as long as they could until they could qualify for disability or finally early Social Security.
Those same ones were also marrying as teenagers, fearing they wouldn't get to have sex if they waited until the New World. No surprise that marrying young and dumb (tho full of ***) led to lots of problems and eventually lots of divorces, and if not divorces then decades of problem marriages.
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Know it’s not true but stay anyway
by Elena inhow many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
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Witnesses made life altering decisions (about careers, finances, health) on the say-so of men who had no education and had NO certainty about any time frame (or anything else it would seem)... People who listened to their advice are paying the price today! ~ LHG
Unfortunately, that is SO true, and SO common.
However, I do NOT see many of the younger people in our area doing that. It seems they are not really convinced about the "nearness" of The End and are hedging their bets by accumulating assets. They are building/buying nice homes and investing in pensions and 401(k) plans. And, they are all taking very nice vacations.
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Know it’s not true but stay anyway
by Elena inhow many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
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"Da Troof" is an awful lot like a tall, refreshing glass of iced water on a scorching hot day . . .with just a very few drops of urine in it. There may be a lot that is "refreshing" about what JW's spout, but the fact is there are those few drops of urine in everything they say that pollutes the whole glass!
Brother, we are going to mark you "Good" on your use of illustrations and move you on to the next point of counsel on your next post.
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Hotel Bossert, a storied hotel on Montague Street in Brooklyn Heights, was sold
by Balaamsass2 inmemories..... a 1970s-1980s meetup location to grab a ride to local trips on the subway...or a bite on montague st.. brooklyn heights hotel to be turned into homes.
the hotel bossert, a storied hotel on montague street in brooklyn heights, was sold to someraroad, a new york city and nashville-based real estate investment and development firm.. bk reader staffmay 31, 2025 10:00 amjun 2, 2025 9:20 am.
photo: supplied/jim.henderson via wikimedia commonslisten to this article00:01:23. .
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Stayed there once on a visit to Bethel. Seems the lobby was pretty fancy. We had 5 or 6 young guys from area congs we knew well and visited. Seems like those were the glory days of WT.
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Where r we now?
by sparrowdown inpost covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.
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This is why I am very Glad I walked away from the Jehovah’s Witnesses while I still had a little youth left. 🙏🏻 I consider this to be priceless.. . . . I can’t think of anything more depressing than anybody growing old sitting in a Kingdom Hall. ~ LHG
We recently attended a couple memorial services at the KHall of long time JW friends and witnessed several older friends (should I say "acquaintances") who are living that exact scenario to which you refer. Yes! Depressing to see! How much more so if it was us personally!
The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
Doc
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Where r we now?
by sparrowdown inpost covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.
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DesirousOfChange
It just shows how how close we are to the end.
Unfortunately , we are only closer to OUR end.
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Reddit thread on convention video urging cutting off contact with Faders
by LongHairGal ini just read this.
don’t know if anybody here has seen the video.. the intended result of this is to obviously scare ‘faders’ out of the shadows.
now, they are being threatened with loss of association with their loved ones and friends.
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Sunk cost fallacy and not wanting elderly relatives to understand they have wasted their lives believing something that was lies. . . . . siblings can now openly talk about how they were mislead into making decisions decades ago based on the lie that the end would come soon. . . . now they are elderly themselves
The phrase I highlighted is the sad part. If you wait and wait so as to not offend others (ie, parents) you find out that now you are too old to start over too and you have been robbed of more years of your own life.
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Guess who's coming to dinner.. Elder and nosey wife!
by Witness 007 inso my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
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April 1st,1972 WT. THEY SHALL KNOW A PROPHET WAS AMONG THEM, This article claims that Jehovah’s Witnesses are indeed, prophets.
They would claim that was just Old Light.
Step up your pace and keep with the program!