Posts by DesirousOfChange

another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.

DesirousOfChange

There was a spike in new cases (in the US) a week ago, but new cases have been steadily declining the past 6 or 7 days. But the number of deaths related to it have been in a steady decline since mid-April.

The "spikes" are in the communities that don't listen or practice reasonable precautions. You can't sit in a circle passing joints or whiskey bottles. You can't live with 4 families or 4 generations in a 2 BR apartment. You can't pack like sardines into a bus or subway train.Refrain from hugging 100 different people at a wedding or funeral or party. You can't fix stupid!

You must use sanitizing wipes or hand sanitizer in public. Clean the shopping cart going in. Sanitize your hands going out. And don't pick your nose in between.

It's a new virus that is here to stay. Some people are still going to get it. Sadly, some of them will even die, but most will be "uncomfortable" for a week with flu-like symptoms. If you are in a high risk group, stay the f*ck at home or at least practice strict social distancing and sanitizing.

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Old Literature

by RolRod in

jw
friends

what did you do with your jw literature when you left?

kept it, sold it or dumped it?

DesirousOfChange

Hold on to it!

It could be a cold winter.

Students burn book after talk on white privilege by Hispanic ...

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How Did You Discover This Site?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i’ve been here a long time.

i saw this site jwd/jwn.

i thought it was very lively and interesting.

DesirousOfChange

I think my first contact was to download the KM when they set up the restriction that non-publishers could not receive it (or some dumb rule like that).

Even after reading a lot here, I too hesitated to "join" for fear of giving up too much information about me. I'm sure I opened a separate email account to register and have no idea what it is now.

Being a JW for so many years causes you to think that everyone is "out to get ya".

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Prince Andrew & Jeffrey Epstein, WTF

by Simon in

in fact, several "wtf"s, not least - why were you visiting a convicted pedophile after his release from prison, never-mind having any contact with him in the first place when his preoclivities seemed to be an open secret.. and the best he can some up with is "i don't remember"?

you don't remember?

there's a fucking photo of you with one of the victims and accessories to the crimes you dumb fuck!.

DesirousOfChange

I'm sure Ms Maxwell is in a similar secure and safe location as was Jeffrey Epstein.

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J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".

by Phizzy in

there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.

yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.

the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?

DesirousOfChange

The WTS said that since it had long lost any religious meaning, it was o k to have them. Pity they dont apply tbat thinking to other things.

The JW's are masters at "SPIN"!

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J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".

by Phizzy in

there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.

yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.

the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?

DesirousOfChange

I used to study with JW up until I had an encounter with Jesus and The Holy Spirit lead me to an accurate knowledge of God.

Trading one cult's superstitions for another's.

Facepalm - Wikipedia

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JW feeling persecuted yet (California)

by Anony Mous in

california, after failing to ban all religious gatherings (failed in court) has now banned all singing and chanting in religious places, including if you are on a live stream and the only person around.. i haven't heard a peep yet from the jw.borg about how to handle this new 'persecution' on religion, the only thing that came up with a search was this: .

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2017/singing-essential-part-of-true-worship/.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2019/worship-jehovah-when-under-ban/.

DesirousOfChange

I think the Borg is "laying low" and not wanting to "rock the boat" regarding any restrictions resulting from the COVID plague. They're likely afraid they'd be sued if they were the cause of a spike among the JW community.

As long as the cash flow doesn't taper off, they'll continue with Zoom meetings.