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  Best Xmas Songs

  by peacefulpete in

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  2. friends

  my favorites.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Grandma got run over by a reindeer
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  Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

  he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

  their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

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  DesirousOfChange

  The former Bethelite now pioneer MS in our Congregation referred to is as GLEANING.

  Leviticus 23:22 ~ ‘When you reap the harvest of your land, moreover, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field nor gather the gleaning of your harvest; you are to leave them for the needy and the alien. I am the Lord your God.’”

  YES! That makes it scriptural for them to mooch off of others.
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  Pioneer hour requirement returns

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, just posted on jw.borg:.

  as of march 2023, the hour requirement for pioneers, which was suspended during the pandemic, will once again be enforced.. elders will review the activity of all pioneers in june 2023. if it appears that any do not have a “practical schedule” (aren’t getting at least close to 70 hours per month”), elders are to “kindly and frankly discuss their circumstances”.. what’s that sound that seems like a torpedo plane diving on its target?

  that’s the sound of the number of regular pioneers in complete free fall .

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  DesirousOfChange

  That requires about a 10% change in pioneer hours.

  Prior to Covid, pioneer hours were 90% imaginary.

  During Covid, pioneers hours were 100% imaginary.

  After Covid, pioneers hours will again be 90% imaginary.

  No one will even notice any difference.
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  why celebrate xmas?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many on here are ex jw....they have left the jws because of coming to find out the many false indoctrinations.

  one of the things learned as a jw is that there isn't anything true about xmas being the birth of jesus.

  ( matt chapter 2 tells a whole different narrative about the baby jesus than what is portrayed by the christian churches) they learn the ways that are celebrated are pagan practices jesus told the samaritan woman that god wanted to be worshipped in spirit and it truth.

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  DesirousOfChange

  First of all, we do not practice Christmas even though we've left WT/JWs behind. We just don't need it.

  I think former JWs that choose to celebrate Christmas don't give a rat's ass about "spirit & truth" of the foundations of the holiday. Christmas is no longer a "religious" holiday as it has been hijacked by secular society including non-Christian cultures. Only a very small percentage of celebrants are "glorifying the baby Jesus". No, the vast majority are enjoying time with family & friends. They are reaching out to friends with small gifts or even just a note/card to stay in touch and reconfirm their friendship. It's just too late to "put Christ back into Christmas".
  
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  Kevin McFree is posting again on YouTube

  by Anna Marina in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you haven't noticed kevin mcfree is posting again.

  re-uploading some of the stuff he had to take down.. also, here is an article by a brother telling the gb exactly what he thinks of how they treated kevin.. https://governingbody.net/i-am-speaking-to-you-the-governing-body-to-move-you-to-shame.

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  It is absolutely amazing to me that WTS spends so much time and money -- OK, the lawyers are probably free, so then we'll just say so much time -- on pursuing BS like this. They were clearly just trying to squash the "vermin" (as they saw McFree). They wanted to make an example to put other anonymous "advocates" on notice. Truly it is a David & Goliath issue. They count on the fact that they can bankrupt an average person via the expensive cost of litigation. Fortunately Kevin got legal assistance from a non-profit legal group and...........David won again.

  Congrats! Kevin!
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  I tried to read through this, but frankly, I've already wasted years on that 1914 bullshite and I just can't do it any more.
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  So after many years I’m back for a bit

  by truthsetsonefree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been out for a long time now and have kept busy.

  but tonight my jw mom asked me what is happening in norway.

  so i researched and wow!

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  WT Ruining Members' Futures

  by HiddlesWife in

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  what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.

  this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.

  she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.

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  This somewhat describes my parents. They put off doing anything financially advantageous or risky (IE, going into business) be The End was sooooo very, very near. Did not want to be "materialistic". No pensions and thus worked well into their 70's. Fortunately for them, they inherited a nice stash (a couple of times).

  Occasionally i think about the fact that this could have been us if we'd have repeated the same mistakes. We were zealous JDubs. We did a lot for "Kingdom Interests". Lots of "investment" -- money, time, sweat, etc. Fortunately, I realized early on that wealthy JDubs were revered. (When you're rich they think you really know. ~ Tevye) Thus, I had no qualms about working with the goal to make money (vs just getting by and pioneering). I worked for a couple very successful businessmen early in life and they were my role models. Here we are today, outcasts in the JDub World (tho not DFd or DAd), but have heard back through the grapevine several sneers about us enjoying our "Paradise" now.

  The greatest revenge is living a happy and successful life!
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  DesirousOfChange

  

  Wish there was a handwriting analyst here.

  Does this signature say anything to you? It's not just a sloppy writing of the letters. There are no attempts at actually scribing characters. It's just scribble. Is he just too important to actually put his signature to this (and it may not be only this)?
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  Did YOU have 'princes' in YOUR congregation?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lol .

  w54 5/1 p. 277 par.

  17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .

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  DesirousOfChange

  Some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,”

  
  This is sure highlighted at Elders' School. It gives the lowly, successful-at-nothing-else, polyester-suit-wearing, window-washing big shots a Woody and a feeling of being special.