DesirousOfChange

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  spirit directed organization

  by enoughisenough in

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  i was watching a video about wt and money and the "brother" refers to the "spirit directed organization.

  " he also says they use donations wisely and modestly.

  are the gb so deluded and therefore their followers?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Call me gullible, but at one time I really believed that JW's were "spirit directed". I really believed that the Holy Spirit "moved" BOE or, for that matter, any official gathering of brothers to "miraculously" come to the same correct "spirit directed" conclusion (I know it's effing stupid to even write this out now).

  I prayed for guidance. I thought everyone did. And, I thought as a collective body, we got it.

  Now I know people see what they want to see. Just as I did. I wanted to believe that. So I did. In reality, there is no voodoo magic to it. At best, just a bunch of guys trying to do the right things. And often you do not even get that.

  Then I took the RED PILL.

  
  
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  Hello

  by cantleave in

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  i popped in to read about the beard u-turn, so thought i'd say hello to anyone who remembers me.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Congrats! Sounds like you have moved on to being an EX ex-JW!

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
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  Kingdom Hall Alarm codes.

  by JEMIMAH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just back from renovating my holiday home in the south west of france.

  beats yorkshire anyday.... anyway thought i would share this little account with you.. as most are of you are aware, the alarm code for about 90% of kingdom halls is 1914 (nineteen fourteen).. i t seems though that for the last 8 or 9 quick builds or refurbs in the uk, the brother who installed the numbers into the alarm control panel used the numbers 1975 and explained the number as one nine seven five not the the easier version (ninteen seventy five).. trivial joke or honest mistake, either way this poor brother has been rumbled and has to to meet with 2 elders investigating on behalf of a body of elders to see whether an apostasy charge will be brought.. he is supposed to be meeting with them over the next few days.. .

  a very sad jem, who is sick of the whole elder abuse game.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Sure enough -- it was "1914" at our old Hall, though "1975" is likely better.

  For some reason, no JW can forget 1975!
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Give Tony a break! "Macallan 12" is only about $80. Had he been filling that cart with "18", then maybe I would agree he was excessive and wonder about the source of all that cash.
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  ? Question for EX-JW grandfathers. What life advice would you give to your grandchildren and your younger self. ?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read an interesting interview with billionaire warren buffet's sidekick, billionaire charlie munger.

  good read, this grandpa agrees 1000% with his advice.

  i wish i had learned earlier to realize almost everyone lies...(sometimes to themselves) but especially, all politicians and religious leaders.. what advice would you as a grandparent add?".

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  DesirousOfChange

  People are “almost certain to succeed” if they spend less than they earn, invest shrewdly, learn continually and remain disciplined

  And of course, I was always fearful that the Market crashing would be the first sign of the Great Tribulation when they would throw their money into the street.
  

  When I finally decided that I'd like to have some money -- even if I did have to throw it in the street -- the Dow had hit 7500 I decided to wait for it to "readjust" to a more reasonable level.
  
  
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  Caleb & Sophia

  by MissDaSilva in

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  always felt really uncomfortable with these kids propaganda videos.

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  beyond creepy and it reminds me of the hitler youth.

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  DesirousOfChange

  When they said in one of the cartoons that Sophia should give her ice cream money to the Hall, my elderly mom quit contributing.

  DO NOT F#(< with a kid's ice cream money!
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  DesirousOfChange

  It would be interesting to hear from Lumberton local JWs if Tony & wife are attending meetings there or even Zooming meetings. But could be there was a Local Needs talk to squash the "gossip" before it even started.

  It is in one of the poorest counties in NC and thus not likely to have too many "bright" PIMOs there.
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  What is worse: 1914 or Beard change

  by Gorb in

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  what is worse for jw's: changing the 1914 doctrine or allowing beards without the right to say what their opinion is?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  So the 1914 doctrine is solid only in the minds of those who are also willing to mindlessly assume that Jesus was talking about an overlapping generation.

  I suspect that not even 5% of active JWs could give you the scriptural explanation for how they arrive at 1914 (seven times, etc etc). At the very best, the average JW would explain the 1914 doctrine based on "the signs" that occurred -- war, famine, pestilence, etc.

  And many couldn't explain it other than tell you to GO TO JW (dot) ORG.

  The current batch of JWs do NOT know any doctrine.
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  What is worse: 1914 or Beard change

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  what is worse for jw's: changing the 1914 doctrine or allowing beards without the right to say what their opinion is?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  except....if they changed 1914 it would give every Single Pimo, PimQ, and elder-doing-it-for-the-wife-but-too-scared-to-think the exact reason they need to get up and walk out

  If they have not walked out already, they never will.
  
  
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  What If?

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recent news about beards is getting lots of attention.

  it made me wonder if any guys will return to the church under the impression that 'so much has changed'.

  back when, i knew a couple guys who were outspoken about beards, seeing it as an issue, and was never terribly moved by their viewpoint.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I think they've caught a lot of crap about their pharisaic rules -- "going beyond these necessary things". Beards is just one of the most prominent examples of such and the issues happens to be a BIG issue for so many people because it is sooo obviously BS. Especially when beards have been allowed in some areas of the world, but banned in others. Our kids when only teenagers witnessed this when meeting elders visiting from Australia who all had full beards even though they were one of the "deadly sins" if you wore them here.

  Hypocrites were not admired by Jesus either.